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  1. johnsonsbaby

    johnsonsbaby Well-Known Member

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    I'm not sure about having a stated length of time off the pitch because that would be altering the game too much. I just think a player holding their head should be made to leave the pitch immediately for assessment. Those playacting will stop doing it and those really injured will be on the way to getting proper treatment. There's actually no rule that says an injured player can get treated on the pitch iirc. It's just crept in and referees allow excessive amounts of time wasted on it. And, as we saw at the weekend, the additional time for Iwobi rolling around and getting treatment, about 2 - 3 minutes, wasn't added on.
     
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  2. Zanjinho

    Zanjinho Boom! Forum Moderator

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    You'd just tell your ****test player to collide with their best player
     
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  3. Zanjinho

    Zanjinho Boom! Forum Moderator

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    Don't need a rule for that, it's about prioritising the individuals health. Ie, moving them could make it worse. It's the medical teams decision; usually pay off the same club as the player though

    Got to remember that they're not always faking, just most of the time they are.
     
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  4. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    Yes but that's also be very obvious.

    Same happened in rugby very quickly.

    Once concussions brought in sides like new Zealand went for the head to get players removed so rules for red cards for doing it game in.

    The scummy bitches whinged so much those rules have now been relaxed to a "bunker review"

    I really hope someone wins a massive case off the rugby union
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  5. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    We could see iwobi got in in the nuts.

    Tete went down twice.

    We have seen several players just lay down and games stop.

    Trent for example.

    If you choose to sit down the game should go on round you until a break in play occurs.
     
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  6. Zanjinho

    Zanjinho Boom! Forum Moderator

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    But, with what you said, players don't even need to touch their head, they just claim to have been touched.

    Retrospective punishment for clear blatant cheating is the only way to solve it
     
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  7. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    The punishment for walker say should be a red card (imo) he's tried to get the man sent off.

    For a player on the con rolling about i think putting them on the sideline for a period would sort it out.
     
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  8. Zanjinho

    Zanjinho Boom! Forum Moderator

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    Yep, the Walker example is perfect; clearly trying to con the referee and absolutely nothing wrong with him. Should be an automatic ban imo
     
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  9. Mr Beej

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    It was certainly not deserving of an Oscar.
     
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  10. Zanjinho

    Zanjinho Boom! Forum Moderator

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    Screenshot_2024-12-16-16-35-10-33_50ef9f5a0f3fc24b6f0ffc8843167fe4.jpg

    How **** are Forest... :bandit:
     
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  11. Gerrardsitchyear

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    I've always been a bit annoyed about players having to go off for treatment when they are clearly injured and are effectively down to 10 men whilst the team that commited the foul get off scott free. My solution to that would be to have the offender leave the pitch for the same period of time.

    It could be abused by opposing teams faking injuries to get the oppos best player off the pitch though.
     
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  12. InBiscanWeTrust

    InBiscanWeTrust Rome, London, Paris, Rome, Istanbul, Madrid Forum Moderator

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    To be fair if it’s a head injury you shouldn’t just be saying up you get go walk off to the side of the pitch. So I get having initial treatment on the pitch - but that should be making sure they’re conscious and ok then further concussion tests should take place off the pitch n
     
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  13. johnsonsbaby

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    I probably didn't make it clear that I meant any type of injury. If physios can come onto the pitch, then there should be a rule allowing it. (It's like some clubs have towels to wipe the ball, that's not allowed either but referees let it slide.) Players are supposed to receive treatment off the pitch but referees at some point started allowing treatment on and now it's standard practice every game.

    The laws of the game specifically say "any player requiring treatment must be given such treatment off the field of play." Exceptions are for goalkeepers, if a goalkeeper and an outfield player collide and both need treatment, if two players from same team collide and for serious injuries.

    If referees are allowing physios on as a matter of course, then the rules need altering especially when you consider how some teams use fake injury as a tactic. It means the referee is complicit in the cheating. I'm not suggesting in any way that a player with a real injury should have to jump up and hobble off.
     
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    At first I was going to say, just shoot anyone with an injury and anyone who caused the injury, that way there will be no more faking injuries... then I realised, maybe I've been in the US too long.
     
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  15. Zanjinho

    Zanjinho Boom! Forum Moderator

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    Towels are allowed so long as they're provided for both teams, it just as to be equal.

    But they'll face prosecution it they try and move the player and make said injury (assuming it's real) worse. Therefore, they won't make players move. Health and wellbeing comes before footballing regulations.
     
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  16. Thus Spake Zarathustra

    Thus Spake Zarathustra GC Thread Terminator

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    And they shouldn't get back until an INDEPENDENT medic has assessed them, even if that takes 5 minutes. If clubs don't like that, we already have concussion subs, don't we? :emoticon-0112-wonde
     
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  17. Libby

    Libby Derby County, we're coming for you

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    Didn't they bring in independent medics for head injuries when the concussion subs came in? Or was it just a suggestion which never happened?
     
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  18. Thus Spake Zarathustra

    Thus Spake Zarathustra GC Thread Terminator

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    Dunno. I thought it was still in the hands of club trainers, but I stand to be corrected. :emoticon-0138-think
     
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  19. Libby

    Libby Derby County, we're coming for you

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    Nah giving it more thought and I believe you're right. I think it was suggested and basically all fans thought "yeah that's a good idea" so the authorities did the opposite.

    We're talking the same people who decide to make new laws rather than enforce current ones (latest being keeper holding onto the ball) so hardly surprising.
     
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  20. johnsonsbaby

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    I totally get what you're saying but the rules do cover health and safety by saying serious injuries must be attended to on the pitch. However, they also say that if the referee considers it a minor injury, he must lets play go on until the ball is out of play. How can the referee know whether or not it's a minor injury? Remember Harvey Elliott's broken ankle? Salah had to get the play stopped. Had the referee bothered to look, which he is supposed to do as part of assessing whether or not it's a minor injury, he would have seen his foot facing the wrong way.

    All injuries where the player goes down or sits down voluntarily on the pitch should see the player removed either by stretcher or support by medical staff as soon as possible. In the most serious cases where the player is unresponsive or disoriented, they should take all the time needed to keep them safe and cause the least harm by not moving them too quickly.
     
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