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Match Day Thread Tottenham Hotspur v Chelsea

Discussion in 'Tottenham Hotspur' started by PleaseNotPoll, Dec 7, 2024.

  1. PowerSpurs

    PowerSpurs Well-Known Member

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    Of course it doesn't always align...I think about half of all signings are failures. But if you sign 5 £30m players over each of 4 seasons you will have a much worse team than a club who has signed the same number at double the price.
     
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  2. humanbeingincroydon

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    It doesn't, because ever since the combination of PSR being brought in and Uncle Roman leaving they've stumbled, and instead are chucking money around and were frankly lucky that one time they helped The Sheikh Mansour team dodge PSR it worked out perfectly for them

    And the fact is that failure falls firmly on the board at Chelsea, given Todd Bollo installed himself as DoF
     
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  3. PowerSpurs

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    I agree that our most expensive signings have turned out quite badly but I don't see who the 4 £90m superstars that we missed are. Ie players who were available and would have joined us if we had bid.
     
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  4. Dier Hard

    Dier Hard G'day mate!

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    I think around 20 trophies in comparison to our 1 in a similar time frame is largely why their approach doesn't get mocked as much as ours when it comes to chopping and changing managers. They provide their managers with the tools for success, we expect ours to make the tools and only a very few are capable of that.
     
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  5. humanbeingincroydon

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    And how many of those twenty trophies were pre-PSR?

    Is it twenty?
     
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  6. Dier Hard

    Dier Hard G'day mate!

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    We've not missed out on any because we never try for them. I think that's largely what fans are annoyed with.

    When we tend to spend big, we often target mediocre players and overpay for them, or players with perhaps just one solid/ good season behind them and bank on the hope they maintain that.
     
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  7. Dier Hard

    Dier Hard G'day mate!

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    Around 12 pre-PSR and 8 post.

    We have 1 pre-PSR and 0 post.
     
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  8. humanbeingincroydon

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    As PSR was introduced for in 2020-21, no they haven't
     
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  9. Dier Hard

    Dier Hard G'day mate!

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    Nope, was introduced about 10 years ago.
     
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  10. humanbeingincroydon

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    No it wasn't, since the current PSR rules have not been in place for a decade

    If they were, Leicester would've started the 2015-16 season on -10 points
     
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  11. Dier Hard

    Dier Hard G'day mate!

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    "The Premier League's Profit and Sustainability Rules (PSR) were introduced in the 2013/2014 season. The rules were created to promote sustainable financial practices and prevent clubs from spending their way to the top of the league table. The PSR are based on UEFA's "Financial Fair Play" initiative."
     
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  12. humanbeingincroydon

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    Except the PSR rules as they stand today were not in place in 2013-14, were they?
     
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  13. Dier Hard

    Dier Hard G'day mate!

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    You asked when PSR was implemented and what Chelsea had won pre it... I gave you that.
     
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  14. humanbeingincroydon

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    Except you didn't, did you?

    Because if PSR as we know it was implemented in 2013, then both Chelsea and the Mansourites would have had faced points deductions every other season
     
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  15. Dier Hard

    Dier Hard G'day mate!

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    I did. You asked what Chelsea had won pre-PSR, I gave you that, now you're changing goal posts by saying it's all about when PSR rules changed.

    And for the record, they've still won 3 trophies in the period you're getting at in comparison to our 0.
     
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  16. Citizen Kane.

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    FFP rules were not the same thing as PSR.

    The noose tightened after the Covid financial fallout.

    But for what it's worth I agree with you. HBIC has you on a technicality, nothing more.
     
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  17. humanbeingincroydon

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    I am not moving the goalposts at all, because the current PSR rules did not apply to at least twenty of the twenty trophies you mentioned
     
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  18. Spurlock

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    Can't blame Romero for wanting to leave when all around him is apparently being built to come to fruition in about 4 years time when he hits his 30's

    His time is now, I would also want out if I was his age and the club is building for 2028
     
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  19. Dier Hard

    Dier Hard G'day mate!

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    So even by your goal post changing stance, it's still 5 trophies to 0 then...

    And that's why - in response to your post to Tilly's Owner about why they don't have the same narrative - it's because they win trophies and therefore their approach works. Ours isn't/ hasn't.
     
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  20. Citizen Kane.

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    It's irrelevant. The point is their strategy worked and then some.

    It wasn't so much PSR that knocked them for six, it was the war in Ukraine resulting in Abramovitch having to sell, the new buyer being an overgrown child who knows as much about football as I do line dancing, the arrival of Klopp to take Liverpool to the next level and the arrival of Guardiola creating a stable dynasty at City.
     
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