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Discussion in 'Newcastle United' started by Albert's Chip Shop, Dec 13, 2023.

  1. Toonitus

    Toonitus Well-Known Member

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    They are facts lol.
     
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  2. magpie290761

    magpie290761 Well-Known Member

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    Ah so being backed does matter. At last, thank you
     
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    Nope rubbished all 3. Feel free to actually answer though instead of deflecting as usual
     
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  4. Toonitus

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    He's had the maximum amount possible so that's the maximum backing lol
     
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  5. Toonitus

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    It's all covered and answered.
     
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    magpie290761 Well-Known Member

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    If a maximum is zero then it’s not backing. Keep trying
     
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  7. Toonitus

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    He hasn't had zero.
     
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  8. magpie290761

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    Deflection again, just concede
     
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    He did last winter and very little this summer, two in a row like that isn’t backing.
     
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  10. Toonitus

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    Nothing was deflected
     
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    That's selective.

    He's had the maximum amount possible over his tenure.
     
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  12. magpie290761

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    If you don’t reply other than saying you’ve already answered yet that answer has been rubbished and you can’t answer that it’s deflection. You always do the same. If you haven’t got the nous to back your own points just concede
     
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    As you said yourself when it comes to investing you have to keep doing it. You can’t stop for two windows and expect to keep up there. But then that contradicts yourself and after asking 9 times you can’t answer that
     
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    I'm saying everything covered in the 3 points I've referred you to.

    Howes been backed to the Max.. see point 3
     
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    You aren’t saying anything I’ve answered the 3 points you can’t answer my reply. Just concede.
    If you give me nothing just because it’s the max you have doesn’t mean you’ve given me something.
     
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  16. Toonitus

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    You claimed the manager hasn't been backed but he's been backed to the maximum whether it was one 2 or all the windows the money was spent in. He's already had the money.

    3. Yes, but they couldn't spend much in the summer because they'd already spent it on isak Guimaraes Tonali botman etc etc in previous windows.

    You also cited selective stats while only looking at two windows yourself.
     
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  17. Roland Deschain

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    It’s cited. Not sighted.
     
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  18. Toonitus

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    Edited for you
     
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    Like I said if a maximum is zero or thereabouts then it’s not backing. Backing with spending has to be maintained to be successful as you said yourself.
    The reasons for no backing are fine but no backing is still no backing however you try to wum it. Having to maintain the backing means next to nothing in the last two consecutive windows isn’t selective it’s relevant and clearly a problem.
    Those signings were good and replaced players who desperately needed replacing to get us anywhere but you keep saying yourself we still have too many dross players. How do you suggest they get replaced to help us continue to drive forward if we have consecutive windows with almost no investment?
    Your selectiveness quoted 11 games from a season where we’ve played 18 won 8 drawn 5 and are in the quarter finals of the league cup.
    You yourself said someone ( Charlie?) was being selective quoting an improvement in the second half of last season because you said we had to view the whole season. Contradictory? Yes?
     
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  20. Toonitus

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    He hasn't had zero.... if he'd had 370 million in one window or across all of them he's has the same amount of backing in value.

    If you're saying they should have spread out the money and that would be backing him more that's an opinion...you're entitled to that opinion.

    I covered the selective issue you had in point 2 and ironically pointed to the fact you are being selective by focussing on only 2 windows and not all of them collectively.

    2. Like I say let's just say 4th,7th and 13th so far with only 2 wins in their last 11.

    BTW just a little side note here but backing can be not selling players like isak or Guimaraes for example.

     
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