I understand xG and understand it’s a guideline, I do a lot of football analysis aswell. was just bewildered by those individual chances. it’s a basis clubs use to determine attacking performances. And yesterday ours evened out over the 90
You see, I just don't believe that's true to any great degree ... ... good footballing people are 90% intuition and 10% data driven imo. I bet Shankly, Ferguson and Clough couldn't even spell statisticks Pep Guardiola: "Statistics are just a pattern of information that we have. There are players who make the team play good without the statistics. If you perform to your maximum, if you perform to your best and you helped your team-mates and make the process better, it is enough."
So we had a month without winning a game ... so what Three points off top and a home game on Tuesday. please log in to view this image
Interesting comments from Pep given that city have and use one of the biggest data analysis teams across all their pyramids in world football. They have dedicated centres for it and it's ingrained into their decision making process.
Yes I know all that mate and what happens, behind the scenes, in the offices of clubs may be of interest to people ... ... but in reality we've no real idea what they're doing, can't affect it and can't gain pleasure from it. It's pure guesswork on our part. I'm sure Man Utd have just the same set up which gets them absolutely nowhere.
Different clubs have different systems and invest in differently. We put a load a money into it and got Janes Young and built a bespoke system to fit what we wanted. That exact system is one of the main reasons we are enjoying watching our young team now. For me it's essential. Some get enjoyment out of it. I like the balance. The eye test comes first for me but good to have the numbers to support.
I'm all for having a proper structure and can see the benefits. Of course it's essential because you always have to keep pace with other clubs and what's going on. What I don't like to see are people finding fault with the club and using one particular set of stats to 'prove their point'. In reality none of us are involved in that process so it's 99% guesswork imo. Implying that the opinion of anyone, who studies endless stats, is more worthy than anyone else's is wrong imo ... ... managers like Russell Martin seem obsessed with stats which doesn't always prove their value.
Depends if the stats are definitive for me. So passing accuracy etc. Say a CM player has a 40% passing accuracy on the data and someone comes on here and said he played great today, kept the ball well etc. Then it's factually incorrect and that opinion is poor one. Other stuff, I agree with. For me it's the eye test and data working hand in hand. Should never be one or the other.
Who does? Anyway I read it back and my response would be, which of these stats is the most important? A player can only have 40% passing accuracy but have three assists that win the game ... ... while trying passes inside the full backs that don't always work but don't put the team in danger.
Of course. But then it comes down to what is the focus and how it's presented. Anyway, good game on currently. Spurs Vs Chelsea.
Sheffield were lucky again today their luck will eventually run out , with no really outstanding teams at the top, its all to play for and we are right in there.. .
Exactly, so the stats can be accurate but meaningless ... ... whereas what you see and how your team do is the most important.
So. Instead of a statistical thing, as a fan, which of the three chances was easiest?out aside your job etc. look at it as a “if I was in any of those 3 positions, which chan e would I most likely score? Mayenda and Watson are both, almost unanimously among fans, easier than wilson
We don't need to beat Sheff Utd or Leeds every week ... ... as long as we beat the likes of Stoke and Bristol City we can stay up there. With more players coming back and 'new' ones like Watson emerging we can play better than we previously have.
Wilson's was the hardest got me. Still should have scored. Watson Mayenda Wilson In that order for me anyway.
Bearing in mind the conditions yesterday I thought we played really well, it was a great attacking performance and Stoke couldn’t complain if we’d have been out of sight at half time. Tommy Watson man of the match for me. onwards and upwards.
Isidor. Centre of the goal, pace is already on the ball so just need to make contact, no defenders, goalkeeper rooted. Then i'd go Watson, I think Isidor changes the direction of the ball slightly when it goes through his legs, and then Mayenda the most difficult because it's a header while being challenged from behind. The defender has a hold of him and drags him to the ground. I would like our forwards to be scoring all 3 though.
