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  1. Toonitus

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    No you're saying I'm being selective with the 1 in 11 while in a separate debate only looking at the last 2 windows.
     
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  2. magpie290761

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    It’s not his fault the club messed up the finances. Fact is they haven’t backed him in the last two windows and to progress you need to keep spending these days. Even you said that yet can’t now even grasp your own point.
     
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  3. Toonitus

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    Ok so now it's the clubs fault they've spent more money than they had available and that means Howes not been backed ?

    Can't agree sorry
     
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    Because the TWO IN 11 is selective as you well know. As I said reminder us when the season started and the actual true picture. Which isn’t good but far better than your deliberate misuse of the figures
     
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    He doesn’t control the finances it’s not his job much as you’d like to blame him for everything
     
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  6. Toonitus

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    Why are you being selective and only looking at two windows? Ultimately the club has backed the manager to the absolute maximum and beyond.
     
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    Conveniently forgetting to reply to the rest of that comment?
     
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  8. Toonitus

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    I never said he did? it was you that brought controlling finances into the debate

    As above the club has backed Howe to the absolute Maximum over his tenure so far.
     
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    The last two windows are relevant because you have to keep spending to compete. Something you have said yourself as I have pointed out twice now to no acknowledgement
     
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    To back the manager to the maximum you have to be able to spend. They haven’t. Of course finances are relevant ffs how else do you buy to back the manager?
     
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    I don't know what else you wanted me to say.

    Let's look at the full season shall we ?
     
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    They have spent more money than was available under the financial rules. How much more backing can they provide.
     
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    Well first you haven’t looked at the full season and secondly it’s your own points about continually having to spend yet now you claim the manager has been backed because they spent 3 windows ago. Which point are you backing?
     
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    Stick better to the rules then you can continue to back the manager besides the reason for not backing him in the market is irrelevant the fact remains he hasn’t had enough new resources in those two windows
     
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  15. Toonitus

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    So it appears we have two separate debates

    1. You're claiming Howe hasn't been backed despite the club spending the maximum amount possible over his tenure.

    2. Me using the stat 2 wins in 11 instead of 13th so far this season, 7th last season and 4th the season before.
     
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    1. The reason for not giving the manager new resources is irrelevant, the fact remains that whatever the reason he hasn’t had that in the last two windows
    2 wins in 11 isn’t comparable to 13th. They are two different statistics. Which school did you go to? 2 wins in 11 should be compared to 5 wins ( and 5 draws) in 15 games I. e. The actual season not just a selective part of it. Also successfully getting through 3 games out of 3 in the league cup.
    3 Do you or do you not need to keep spending to compete at the top? You said you do but now say otherwise. Which is it?
     
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    1. Can't agree that's just your opinion on how the funds should've been spread out, but the fact is that the club has spent the maximum amount over his tenure.

    2. Like I say let's just say 4th,7th and 13th so far with only 2 wins in their last 11.. it shouldn't bother you it's just facts.

    3. Yes, but they couldn't spend much in the summer because they'd already spent it on isak Guimaraes Tonali botman etc etc in previous windows.
     
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    If you want him to just say nothing ever again, then just say so!!

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  19. magpie290761

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    It’s just facts that Howe hasn’t been backed in the market in the last two windows whatever the reasons for it.4th 7th 13th are league positions and bear no resemblance to match results. 2 in 11 is selective as we haven’t just played 11 we’ve played 15 or 18 including the cup. You’re conveniently forgetting 7 games of which 6 have been won. Ludicrous even by your standards.
    I repeat for the sixth time, do you think you need to keep spending to compete or not? You’ve backed both arguments now, which is it?
     
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  20. Toonitus

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    I refer you to my previous post as it covers everything.
     
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