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Match Day Thread Crystal Palace vs Newcastle United

Discussion in 'Newcastle United' started by Toonitus, Nov 26, 2024.

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What will the result be

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  2. Draw

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  3. Loss

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  4. Win

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  1. Charlie Dogscock

    Charlie Dogscock Well-Known Member

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    Stop trolling.

    West Ham ain't good.
     
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  2. Toonitus

    Toonitus Well-Known Member

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    I wasn't trolling look at the players they've got.. a bad start doesn't mean those players can't play well.

    They just beat Newcastle?
     
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  3. Magdad

    Magdad cult leader

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    I agree that Howe looks out of time (to a degree), I agree the tactics are constantly the same, I agree he has his favourites, I agree some signings (Barnes) make no sense, I agree Longstaff is poor, I agree he's playing one tactic only.

    I don't agree the club are being left behind, I don't agree Villa are better, I sure as **** don't agree Brentford and Brighton are better.

    However that score the other night was the most NUFC thing ever, I support the team not the regime if you like.

    I was here long before the glory hunters and I'll hopefully be here long after them.
     
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  4. Geordie Ginola

    Geordie Ginola Well-Known Member

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    I suppose the difference is Liverpool and Man City are 1st and 2nd in the league and we are 10th.
     
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  5. Toonitus

    Toonitus Well-Known Member

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    Then we agree on everything but the villa thing which is not bad really because we can't agree on everything.
     
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  6. Geordie Ginola

    Geordie Ginola Well-Known Member

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    I don’t. I want Eddie to adapt and manage games better.

    I never want us to lose.
     
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  7. Darren Peacock’s Ponytail

    Darren Peacock’s Ponytail Well-Known Member

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    Personally don't think it was EHs fault. We had 18 shots but only 2 on target. That's down to the players.

    For once he tried to change the actual formation/tactic and maybe if we got that penalty then things may have ended differently.

    My only gripe is that Tonali didn't start.
     
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  8. Geordie Ginola

    Geordie Ginola Well-Known Member

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    That’s a fair comment. It’s hard because there was about 3 or 4 clear cut chances and yes your right if the players had converted then we would probably have got some kind of result.

    I agree with the Tonali point.

    What I get frustrated with is he plays the exact same formation and players every game. So as an opposing manager it’s easy to plan against.

    The best managers mix it up depending on the opposition.

    It’s up to him to address the shot conversion problem.
     
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  9. Toonitus

    Toonitus Well-Known Member

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    West Ham sat back and countered that defeated Howes set up.
     
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  10. Geordie Ginola

    Geordie Ginola Well-Known Member

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    The worst defeats under his tenure have been all to similar.

    We do better against the so called better teams.

    West Ham fans are saying that’s one of the best results in years.

    So maybe we just take it on the chin.

    Howe is capable of getting results against Palace and Liverpool.
     
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  11. Toonitus

    Toonitus Well-Known Member

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    Palace away will be very difficult..they've been pretty good recently. There's something I think I've noticed and I believe our players are fed up being asked to sprint around like headless chickens.
     
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  12. Roland Deschain

    Roland Deschain Well-Known Member

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    It’s outdated, even weaker teams have easily worked out how to play through lines on the counter. But sometimes we’ll just simply be better and win.
     
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  13. Geordie Ginola

    Geordie Ginola Well-Known Member

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    Do we think Howe is a one trick pony.

    This happens.

    Every big takeover that’s happened it’s usually the first manager and even second manager goes before success comes.

    I like Howe I really do but he’s not showing me he’s elite level.

    Hes like a control freak. And doesn’t ever let his emotions show.

    I would have been going knuts on the sideline against West Ham.

    Is he to nice? Do we need a manager that is ruthless. It’s all about percentages for me.

    The players maybe need a kick to the arse. They are letting him down. But when you have a nice manager it’s human nature to take the piss.
     
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  14. Toonitus

    Toonitus Well-Known Member

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    The worst part is that whoever comes in will have to teach them how to play which will see an immediate downturn in results... ironically much like West Ham, but once they start to click they'll be better for it.
     
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  15. Darren Peacock’s Ponytail

    Darren Peacock’s Ponytail Well-Known Member

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    No they haven't. A win, a couple of draws and lots of defeats. In fact very West Ham.
     
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  16. Toonitus

    Toonitus Well-Known Member

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    I think Howe is a manager without any experience of managing at the highest level and it'll require someone else to take the club to the next level.

    Newcastle don't even carry an advantage if players thinking oh i'll play for that manager with the amazing reputation across Europe. I'd also make a case he less very few connections outside Bournemouth.

    He's done a good job, but things have hit the ceiling and I could be proven completely wrong, but I'll be surprised if he's still here this time next year.
     
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  17. Toonitus

    Toonitus Well-Known Member

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    The last few games they've played some good stuff.. results improving... you'll see on the weekend.
     
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  18. magpie290761

    magpie290761 Well-Known Member

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    Surely every successful manager at top level had no experience of it at one time?
     
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  19. Roland Deschain

    Roland Deschain Well-Known Member

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    Sure but do you really think Howe can get there? Genuine question.
     
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  20. magpie290761

    magpie290761 Well-Known Member

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    I really don’t know, no one does. Maybe the same question gets asked about many managers before they come good.
     
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