Some sense at last. I also don’t usually make long journeys. When I do I take the hybrid. Companies are improving the range of electric cars every year. Fossil fuels are not sustainable in the long term. Electric cars are not for everyone I understand that. Also not everyone can afford an electric car. But whether you like it or not, non petrol cars are the future.
I find it depressing how few people take any interest in environmental matters, and how many sneer at those who do. I think social media has encouraged a tribal stance on many subjects.
I find it depressing how the loss of thousands of working class jobs in England are being written off for this ideology. Owning an electric car will not make a nano shred of difference for as long as China & Brazil etc continue to pump filth into the atmosphere. Parading your conscience is fine up until the point it costs your fellow citizen his livelihood.
We're a Nation of Nimbys. We want clean energy, but nobody wants lines of pylons spoiling their countryside. We want enough homes for people to live in - just not on land near where we already live. And we want a green planet just as long as our lifestyle isn't affected. We want net zero, but only if it means we can still buy a new smartphone every year and an SUV every two years. And still fly away on our holidays of course. And we want unlimited broadband for gaming, and the Cloud for infinite data. So giant server cities are boiling the Planet and consuming more electricity than Human cities. And the mines where battery metals come from are out of sight, out of mind. And our Government is no better. Endless COP junkets and NOTHING done to defend against flooding.
Nobody wants to die and everyone wants to go to heaven. I don’t give a stuff what you or anyone else thinks, apart from my family. Parading my coscience? Stupid interpretation.
My brother-in-law is a black cabby - you cannot mention the word Uber ! They can be absolute liabilities!
Who can blame them. You spend 2-3 years doing the Knowledge, only to be undercut by foreigners who can’t barely drive on the right side of the road.
Penguin is right people need to have at least tried to do their bit. I’ve got a self charging hybrid very nice . people in Biggin Hill (i grew up there and have family still there) typically are not affected by ULEZ but still like to moan about it. we should not give up on the green agenda it’s the single most important political issue imo
That's simply market forces. In 2015 I lost my job of 21 years because of cheap Chinese imports. However, free markets are not the only way. This is a question of economic ideology (plus immigration policy as inferred by your use of the word 'foreigners') and those matters are controlled by Governments. So this is a political subject, and is very difficult to discuss without political opinions colouring posts. Bearing in mind what @Dick Plumb1 posted earlier today, can we try to keep politics out of posted content in this thread? I'm not sure if that can be done, since many things that make us unhappy (bad news) have a political dimension of some kind. Let's see how things go over the next few days...
@lardiman is correct. Much of the topical bad news is inextricably linked to politics - the sad loss of 1,100 car making jobs at Luton for instance. Let’s focus on football.
