Match Day Thread Millwall FC v Sunderland AFC - Saturday 23rd November 2024 - KO 15:00

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It's been an issue all season tho, not just today - we use by far the least amount of subs in the league

Ba brings energy to a team, something we totally lacked in the 2nd half, Adil can get on the ball and hold onto it and draw fouls - something we needed in the 2nd half. Even getting Johnson on for his defensive ability and switching to a back 5 would have been fine with me. Would it of made a difference, who knows

But the longer we go without using our bench the more it'll impact us imo

Good post.
 
I agree with you there, but I also think today was not a day for using lots of subs. Why would RLB turn to players who cannot play in his system? He'd have been crucified on here if he'd brough Ba on and we conceded a winner when he gets caught in possession (which lets' face it, happens every time he's in possession)
Ba does lose possession but he can also skin players and create chances. As well as fresh legs, it can change the momentum which was against us all second half. Hindsight is 20-20 but I bet a lot of people wanted a sub on in the last 5/10 mins.
 
It's been an issue all season tho, not just today - we use by far the least amount of subs in the league

Ba brings energy to a team, something we totally lacked in the 2nd half, Adil can get on the ball and hold onto it and draw fouls - something we needed in the 2nd half. Even getting Johnson on for his defensive ability and switching to a back 5 would have been fine with me. Would it of made a difference, who knows

But the longer we go without using our bench the more it'll impact us imo

You're spot on here.

One thing that is becoming blatantly obvious is that RLB needs to trust that the players to understand their roles well before trusting them with minutes on the pitch, this has meant we are selecting from a small pool of players, he has to start introducing more players like Aleksic, Ba, Aouchiche etc in order for him to be comfortable playing them when we need options.
 
It's been an issue all season tho, not just today - we use by far the least amount of subs in the league

Ba brings energy to a team, something we totally lacked in the 2nd half, Adil can get on the ball and hold onto it and draw fouls - something we needed in the 2nd half. Even getting Johnson on for his defensive ability and switching to a back 5 would have been fine with me. Would it of made a difference, who knows

But the longer we go without using our bench the more it'll impact us imo
Mate I rate Adil, but he's clearly a 10 and we don't need a 10 that won't defend, Ba is an enigma as he has loads of skill, but plays like he's never seen a team meeting or a tactics board.

Johnson is a good prospect, but he is a centre half that fills in at right back.

The back 4 did bloody well today right until the end, if Alesic had out his foot through that chance Millwall wouldn't even have had the chance to score.

When the 6 players missing are back, then subs can be made that slot straight in, but today we didn't have that option
 
Hahaha love that so me and one or 2 others jinxed this game because we weren't worried about a ****house side?

Who do you think are the lucky ones here? Is it us for HANGING ON or them for the last kick of the game point?

We completely outplayed them first half and had we kept the same mentality would have seen the game out comfortably.
But we had a few new lads in and different positions for some and we got a bit to scared imo.

Now most of the same people that had us down for a defeat or draw at best will piss and moan that we never won. We've some ****ed up fans.

Neither team was lucky, that result was deserved. Yet again we’ve sat back second half and let a team attack us at will. They had 62% possession, 11 shots to our 9, 10 corners to our 2. But we outplayed them? :emoticon-0102-bigsm
 
I agree with you there, but I also think today was not a day for using lots of subs. Why would RLB turn to players who cannot play in his system? He'd have been crucified on here if he'd brough Ba on and we conceded a winner when he gets caught in possession (which lets' face it, happens every time he's in possession)
Some might of for sure, we were crying out for some energy tho and that's what Ba brings. We weren't holding onto the ball anyway so we wouldn't have been any worse off

Tbh my comments are more a reflection of the season so far, I really don't like when managers don't use the bench to change the flow of a game. It's the only thing I can have a go at RLB for as hes been class since coming in. If we don't start using subs better it could kill our season

Jan is def massive as we need to bring a few in to improve the squad which should then help RLB
 
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I would aswell I think. He was very good until he had nothing left. 70 mins onward.
your right mate, but like Mogga said the other night, he can only play who he is told can play.
And REPEAT how many times did numb nuts give the ball away AGAIN.
 
AA was not the play when we’re sitting in there we lose all defensive shape

had Onien not stepped out at the end we win 1-0

that’s the difference. The subs haven’t cost that the mistake has. If he doesn’t step out we don’t even mention that

we sit back it’s how we play. It’s the reason we have 32 points and 9 clean sheets?

last two games we’ve made mistakes and got punished yes. But for the large majority of games we haven’t we’ve seen them out. I think a big factor is jobe in the middle mind as to why we’ve struggled to see out games but that’s a different conversation.

our bad patch has us still top 2 minimum dependant on Leeds result and unbeaten in 9. Especially today when 6 out of the 7 on the bench today played for the under 21s this season
 
Are we really questioning RLB when we are top of the league? I mean that bench was pretty poor today. Nothing against anyone on the bench but Aouchiche and Ba haven't kicked a ball in anger in the league this season.

I expected a defeat today potentially a heavy one so am actually pretty happy with a point yes im a bit disappointed with the manner of it.

People screaming why didn't we bring him on or him on need to look at the picture of the game. Yes they had a lot of territory but we were dealing with them pretty well. If Aleksic puts his chance away we win 2-0. I'm not blaming him before anyone jumps on that I actually thought he was decent.

We've just gone away to the form team in the league with 5 definite starters out and come 2 mins away from a brilliant victory.

I think we need a bit of perspective.

Oh and we are still top of the league. (Tonight anyway)
 
your right mate, but like Mogga said the other night, he can only play who he is told can play.
And REPEAT how many times did numb nuts give the ball away AGAIN.
I know you're talking about Neil here, the answer is 4 times (3 misplaced passes and 1 tackle), which was the least amount of any of our starting players.

Seems strange to target him after he was perfectly fine today. Rigg lost the ball 23 (TWENTY THREE) times today for comparison.
 
Are we really questioning RLB when we are top of the league? I mean that bench was pretty poor today. Nothing against anyone on the bench but Aouchiche and Ba haven't kicked a ball in anger in the league this season.

I expected a defeat today potentially a heavy one so am actually pretty happy with a point yes im a bit disappointed with the manner of it.

People screaming why didn't we bring him on or him on need to look at the picture of the game. Yes they had a lot of territory but we were dealing with them pretty well. If Aleksic puts his chance away we win 2-0. I'm not blaming him before anyone jumps on that I actually thought he was decent.

We've just gone away to the form team in the league with 5 definite starters out and come 2 mins away from a brilliant victory.

I think we need a bit of perspective.

Oh and we are still top of the league. (Tonight anyway)

Unfortunately when we don’t make subs and throw games away late on it’ll get mentioned irregardless of our league position. I’m not being funny but how brain dead is not making substitutions to waste time in injury time? Every other team do it, even the likes of Liverpool/City etc but we don’t.

Think of it this way, with better game management and earlier subs in the last two games we’d be 4 points better off.
 
Would have taken a point at the start with all the players missing but it's so frustrating conceding so late

Obviously been so many positives since RLB has come in but I mentioned weeks ago that I have massive concerns about our lack of subs in games. We look knackered in 2nd half of games at the minute but RLB doesn't seem to use his bench. His lorient team ran out of seem due to this his 1st yr as a manager and we all know how tough the championship is.

I get the bench wasn't the strongest today but it's been an issue all season. RLB needs to.impact the game more with his subs than he's doing currently

Today we were crying out for some fresh legs and he didn't change anything

Can't wait to get jobe back in the side on Tues as he's a massive loss when not playing
If you were the Manager what changes would you have made ?
 
your right mate, but like Mogga said the other night, he can only play who he is told can play.
And REPEAT how many times did numb nuts give the ball away AGAIN.
I assume that Dan Neil your referring to?

Quality commentary on how he played, really analysed his good and bad points from today.

Unless your referring to Rigg? Who also struggled to get his passing right?
 
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Are we really questioning RLB when we are top of the league? I mean that bench was pretty poor today. Nothing against anyone on the bench but Aouchiche and Ba haven't kicked a ball in anger in the league this season.

I expected a defeat today potentially a heavy one so am actually pretty happy with a point yes im a bit disappointed with the manner of it.

People screaming why didn't we bring him on or him on need to look at the picture of the game. Yes they had a lot of territory but we were dealing with them pretty well. If Aleksic puts his chance away we win 2-0. I'm not blaming him before anyone jumps on that I actually thought he was decent.

We've just gone away to the form team in the league with 5 definite starters out and come 2 mins away from a brilliant victory.

I think we need a bit of perspective.

Oh and we are still top of the league. (Tonight anyway)
Nothing wrong questioning a manager for not using his bench when we concede a late goal after being under the cosh for the 2nd half. Would it have guaranteed us 3 points if we made subs, of course not, we might even had got zero points from making more subs

The concern people are raising is the lack of using the bench, which we haven't used all season. Now it's not had a massive impact on us as we are top of the league, and will it have an issue on us going forward, who knows.

I'm hoping this is just our bad patch but we have to start using our bench better when players are back fit