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The Farmers Protest

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  1. The Norton Cat

    The Norton Cat Well-Known Member

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    Very rarely facetious. Never post anything that I don't know to be fact, or haven't tried to verify. Try to always differentiate between opinion and fact. Never exaggerate. I'm always happy to have a sensible discussion.

    Genuinely wanted to know what you were referring to. Some interesting points. I'm not sure I entirely agree but I do believe societal change is required. Personally, I think its is attitudes that need to change, rather than anything else. Obviously though, as time passes some industries become obsolete.
     
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    There's literally no woo-woo involved, it's the path paved with good intentions as always.
     
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  3. FellTop

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    I am a bit fed up of thinking we can import things so we could or should. That mentality has in part led to our lack of control over our own economy. We produce some of the best natural ingrdients available in my opinion. I like nice food. I would sooner eat beef, lamb, pork etc from my local area that I can see the provonence of.
     
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  4. WorkyTicketFTM

    WorkyTicketFTM Well-Known Member

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    £50k a year IT on top of other taxes and costs to maintain is extortion, that farm could be taking in less than £100k a year. These are hardworking people who play a critical role in feeding the UK.

    This labour government really have hit home with politics of envy, some of you should move to China you’d enjoy it in a communist state :emoticon-0102-bigsm
     
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  5. Frazier the Lion

    Frazier the Lion Well-Known Member

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    Everyone likes nice food. There’s plenty who don’t have the luxury of being able to afford it.
     
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  6. Frazier the Lion

    Frazier the Lion Well-Known Member

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    The politics of envy. Or ‘fairness’ as it’s also known:emoticon-0102-bigsm
     
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  7. WorkyTicketFTM

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    What’s fair about inheritance tax? The whole thing is a shambles let alone taxing a working farm, again.

    If you purchase a £1m property on a 30 year mortgage, with £850k of it being mortgaged realistically you’re going to pay about £1.5m, so £650k “tax”. Why should your child have to take out a mortgage again on that property again when you die?

    Personally I hope they just drive the prices of everyday essentials up so the envious are stung even harder.

    Fair play for sticking your guns on voting Labour and not admitting you’re a laughing stock yet, I’m sure it won’t take much longer.
     
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  8. FellTop

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    Of course not. But if I lose my eligibility to buy my food from local sources, and I have worked hard for a long time to be able to afford to do so, because we lose another national industry, then I will be quite upset. Local independant retailers, if allowed to flourish, serve a purpose. Much like supermarkets who import cheaper alternatives for those who need / prefer them.
     
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  9. Frazier the Lion

    Frazier the Lion Well-Known Member

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    Aye lad. I'm sure you'll see plenty of trickledown for your unswerving loyalty.
     
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  10. WorkyTicketFTM

    WorkyTicketFTM Well-Known Member

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    The worst thing is these idiots don’t realise who will buy up the farms if local farmers are priced out. Because a working class bloke won’t stumping up millions to do it.
     
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  11. alcoauth

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  12. Frazier the Lion

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    It'd be a shame, but if there are people still willing to pay a premium I'm sure the market will sustain. The point is choice and provision. Insisting on everything being grown locally can only reduce choice and push up prices.
     
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  13. FellTop

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    Agree, I was replying to the concept of no uk farming because we can import it cheaper.
     
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  14. FellTop

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    My fear is if farms do fail then govt will shift rules again to allow residential building on it. Particularly those where reaidential areas have already grown outward to the borders of agricultural land.
     
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  15. Smug in Boots

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    Perhaps people needing somewhere to live fear if they don’t.
     
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  16. Frazier the Lion

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    It would be bad for us, but the chances of the country having to make fundamental choices along those lines in future aren’t zero
     
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  17. Saf

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    Unless she dies soon…

    Point taken, though <ok>
     
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  18. Saf

    Saf Not606 Godfather+NOT606 Poster of the year 2023

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    There’s always at least 250k long term homes standing empty in England. Nobody should be worrying that we aren’t turning more of our countryside into housing estates.
     
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  19. FellTop

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    We arent short of land to build on mate. The question will be what is easier for developers to make money from.
     
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  20. Smug in Boots

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    Perhaps people want houses in the countryside …

    … not on the brownfield site of an old warehouse.
     
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