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Match Day Thread Should Caoimhin Kelleher play against Southampton?.

Discussion in 'Liverpool' started by LuisDiazgamechanger, Nov 16, 2024.

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YES. KELLEHER SHOULD PLAY

Poll closed Nov 26, 2024.
  1. NO. ALISSON SHOULD PLAY

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  2. DON'T KNOW

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  1. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    With his feet yes.

    No hope pope hasn't done too bad before his injury but he guy wouldnt be want you'd call expansive.
     
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  2. LuisDiazgamechanger

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    Certainly he is better than Jordan Pickford.
     
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  3. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    Pickford is grossly over rated.

    Woeful on the ground. Ball bounces off him and he has zero about him in therms of coming out.
     
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  4. Solid Air 2

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    no he is a better keeper period .
     
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  5. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    I think kelleher is a bit average at the fundamentals personally. It helps he is playing for us so faces a different challenge to others.

    His concentration and calm demeanor certainly are strengths but any time we have a free kick to face I'm worried. Not his best attributes.

    In general kelleher has worked very hard and benefitted from the games that have come his way (far too consistently due to alission injuries)

    It's actually be interesting to see him.in a team.thst doesn't dominate possession and see what he does.
     
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  6. InBiscanWeTrust

    InBiscanWeTrust Rome, London, Paris, Rome, Istanbul, Madrid
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    Kelleher is twice the keeper of Pope. Popes only strength is shot stopping and even that is ropey as he pushes a hell of a lot. His distribution and calmness is poor and he’s weak in the air for such a big keeper. Being big he’s slow and immobile getting down to shots as well.

    I’d put Kelleher above everyone other than Alison Ederson raya Martinez. Alongside verbruggen and Onana and that’s only because he’s second choice and needs more game time to be consistent.
     
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  7. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    I don't disagree on pope. No hope pope is a shot stopper like pickshite. Ball hits himand bounces off.
     
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  8. LuisDiazgamechanger

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    Is Karius still with Newcastle?.Certainly Pope is better than Karius.
     
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  9. RogerisontheHunt

    RogerisontheHunt Well-Known Member

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    No, he's without a club.

    The CL final has basically destroyed his career
     
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  10. Milk..

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    He got plenty of time in Turkey on loan and from what I recall he had a really hard time even at that level.
     
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    I feel sorry for the guy a little, but I wasn't overly impressed by what I saw before he joined us.
    Even his "everyone looks good on YouTube" tube didn't look good.
     
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  12. Zanjinho

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    Karius played well that season, he came into the side about the same time as VVD and Robbo and help sure up the defence; most of the credit belonged to VVD, obviously, but he was still part of it too. That concussion in the final destroyed his career
     
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  13. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    He played OK. He was always an accident waiting to happen and the critique was and should have been the the ball bounces off him amd goes anywhere.

    Rather like Aaron ramsdale tbh.

    What ruined his career was his own attitude and confidence. He's had ample chances to turn it around amd hasn't.

    One knock doesn't ruin a career. The response to that knock does.

    Kelleher takes the constant knock of big Al tapping him on the shoulder and walking back into role and keeps working.

    I'd nit rate kelleher much higher than karius on shot stopping btw. See the one that was right at him that he batted down right into the middle of tje goal v England?

    Karius did have the work ethic or maybe mental health to deal with the knocks.

    If kelleher plays this weekend for us after a 0-5 disaster I know he will still be as calm as calm can be.
     
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  14. LuisDiazgamechanger

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    It was a big mistake for us to buy Karus and sent a better keeper on loan.
     
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  15. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    I wouldnt go that far.

    Bogan and ward have not set the world alight ;)
     
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  16. johnsonsbaby

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    Don't forget Karius played every game in the CL to get us to the final. We also only lost 3 games out of the 19, that same season, when he played in the PL. For a lot of people, perception of him now is coloured by how his tenure ended.
     
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  17. organic red

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    Exactly <ok>
     
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  18. Germlands Nozzer

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    Hmmm, he did alright in the CL, but he still wasn't totally convincing, as people said at the time. We conceded 38 goals on the PL that season (I don't know how many he was keeper for) and only 22 the next season, so our defence definitely improved.

    I agree that the final has coloured perceptions, but then so has his lack of playing time since and the fact that public news about him has been more about his love life than his football.
     
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  19. Zanjinho

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    He gets unfairly criticised, he's was decent that season
     
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  20. organic red

    organic red Well-Known Member

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    Something else that should be taken into account is the difference in cost between Karius and say,Alisson.

    Alisson,one of the best around, cost about 15 times the amount Karius did,no doubt with higher wages aswell.

    So you get what you pay for, broadly.
     
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