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The Politics Thread

Discussion in 'Tottenham Hotspur' started by Wandering Yid, Feb 9, 2016.

  1. humanbeingincroydon

    humanbeingincroydon Well-Known Member

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    How it started

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    How it's going

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    Here is what happened in Amsterdam. You are being lied to people the MSM is just parroting Starmerisms and Biden lies. The UK and the USA are actively involved in genocide and most of the people in the UK know it. You would think all was ok if you just get your news from MSM or worse you would think this is all antisemitism. Israel needs to be stopped and for starters we should stop playing football with the ****s.

    https://x.com/i/status/1856951278443675951 This from the the Dutch Parliament.

    Then this from Owen Jones


     
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  5. humanbeingincroydon

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    Let's see what the tea boy for Borat 2 has to say about the Grauniad leaving Twitter

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    Hmm, you know, it almost looks as if the Grauniad ****ed up by enabling ****s like this under the belief they wouldn't turn on them the second they got what they wanted...
     
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  6. humanbeingincroydon

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    ...oh, and Trump appointed somebody who trafficked a teenage girl as his Attorney General

    Who also posted this a few years ago (screengrab, just in case)

    The party of protecting children, ladies and gentlemen!
     
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  7. remembercolinlee

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    No don't think I am.

    I simply said that I do not believe that everything that occurred in Amsterdam was in relation to the provocation from the Israeli fans.

    I have been around various movements and trade unions for all my adult life and have a very healthy mistrust of all mainstream media.

    Maybe (due to personal reasons) I ain't been clear so I will try again.

    1. Israel should be treated like apartheid S Africa was and should be shunned by the international community.

    2. The terrorist attack of 7th October does not, can not, and will never justify the mass slaughter of Palestinians.
    I felt the same about 9/11 and was very active against the ensuing illegal wars that Blair and Bush started.

    3. Israel has been allowed to abuse and break an untold number of international agreements and laws supported by the US and British Governments.

    4. People hide behind "but Hamas are terrorists who hide in civilian areas so the mass slaughter of civilians are on their heads" to either play down or defend the atrocities caused by the Israeli state.

    5. Other people hide behind Israel's inhumane treatment of Palestinians to vent their racism towards Jewish people.

    6. And a third group, appalled by Israel's behaviour seem incapable of distinguishing the difference between the words "Israel" and "Jewish"

    7. The demonisation of the pro Palestine protests is no different from the rights demonisation of every "left" movement.

    As regards to Amsterdam I was saying that to deny that there was anti semitism at play in some of what occurred is fanciful and dangerous.

    The demonstrations in Britain have been excellent, however the press use the very few examples of anti semitic images on home made placards to argue that London is a no go area for Jewish people.
    Pretending that a tiny minority of anti semitic scum aren't trying to use this situation to spread their hate is simply wrong.
     
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  8. humanbeingincroydon

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    I had to use the AP report because no way would anyone believe this wasn't an Onion headline otherwise...
     
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    Can't wait for the BBC to pretend they didn't see this!

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    Trump's nominees, so far:
    Director of National Intelligence: Russian asset in a homophobic cult.
    Defense Secretary: Fox News host, war crimes sympathiser who doesn't believe in germs and hasn't washed his hands for a decade.
    Secretary of State: Implicated in massive financial mismanagement in the GOP and called Trump a fraud.
    Attorney General: People trafficking ****.
    Secretary of Homeland Security: Killed a pet dog. Killed a goat. Abused her position. Lied about meeting Kim Jong Un.

    ****'s sake. <doh>
     
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    Meanwhile, at PMQs, we get Kemi BadEnoch reading a piece of paper like an eight year old
     
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    Well said, Sir!! <applause>
     
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    Today's headline
    The king works on his Birthday, when it should have read , Man with billion pound hat opens a food bank
     
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    Yet not one of the papers or main news agencies has run with the Dispatches revelations...<doh>
     
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    Oh great! We're all going to die!! <doh>:emoticon-0183-swear
     
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    What you say here is IMO all true and I applaud you for it but in the context of:

    The Dutch King lied
    The Dutch PM lied
    Israel always lies
    Starmer lies
    Lammy lies
    Germany apart from DW lies
    USA lies
    Biden lies
    Harris lies
    Main stream media lies
    This all makes Trump look normal.

    When one of the few politicians who has spoken out against the lies is an ex Foreign Office Tory Minister now in the House of Lords. I am astonished to find myself applauding a Tory Lord the polar opposite of my normal position.

    When these lies and gross injustices have been directed to the Palestinians ALL of my life.

    When Abby Martin US Journalist went to Tel Aviv and we hear from their own lips that they want Genocide.




    In this context I do not feel disposed to give any benefit of doubt to Maacabi.
     
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    It is also the case, and I am appalled to have to say it, if you are of working age take care about getting involved in this debate. We have already seen people losing their jobs and prospects by opposing Israel.
    I, like Garry Linekar, am retired and do not have to worry about that anymore.
     
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    What a hero you are.

    Posting anonymously on a forum with a few dozen members.

    Bravo.
     
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    I am not going to respond to that.
     
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    Let's keep the tone less personal on here please! We can surely agree to disagree agreeably? :emoticon-0148-yes:
     
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