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Match Day Thread Wolves (A) - 09/11 @ 15:00 - Libby's treble FUN match fred

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  1. shoot_spiderman

    shoot_spiderman Power to the People

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    It is at Dorch
    If you were here, I’d return the compliment
    <cheers>
     
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  2. Billy Bates

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    I just don’t think this is brave. It doesn’t get us anywhere really, even Championship level teams pretty much figured us out.

    I thought, and I expect many others, this season would turn out as it has.

    Doesn’t make me disrespectful to the manager, even saying it is vanity isn’t being rude.

    I think Martin is being disrespectful to us and the players by playing a way that is likely to send us down with a record low point total, and not so much about it as he wants to play his way. Management is about getting the most out of your team, flexing to their strengths, Martin is sticking pretty rigidly to his system. That is why to me it is pretty much a vanity project.
     
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  3. thereisonlyoneno7

    thereisonlyoneno7 Well-Known Member

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    The way I see it is that the 'Martin way' means we are boring, predictable, concede stupid goals and don't score. We have given it a ¼ of a season and it hasn't 'clicked' yet. I'm willing to wage my next 10 years salary that it won't either.
     
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  4. shoot_spiderman

    shoot_spiderman Power to the People

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    Taking risks is brave, taking the right risks is good decision making
    Getting the most out of your team is pragmatism and isn’t really a viable long term strategy
    He came here with a way of playing and we employed him on that basis
    He is coaching the players to play that way and believes it is the most successful strategy, in the long term
    It got us promoted after a horrible start last season, it’s far more difficult in the Prem, obvs
    It also delivered one of the best footy days of my (& Mrs S’s) life, and for that we are truly grateful :1980_boogie_down:
     
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  5. shoot_spiderman

    shoot_spiderman Power to the People

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    I’ll match that wager, to the next 20 years of my salary, mush :emoticon-0150-hands

    P.S. I’m retired
     
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  6. Billy Bates

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    Fair do’s I guess, each to their own.

    Do you believe this way of playing this season is going to be successful as in keeping us up , or do you think it will relegate us?

    And if you don’t think it will be successful, do you think the manager should continue to play this way, or find another way, or the club find another manager?
     
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  7. thereisonlyoneno7

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    :)
     
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  8. shoot_spiderman

    shoot_spiderman Power to the People

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    I don’t know but I’m not sure whether playing differently would either
    I definitely don’t think shipping in a journeyman to try and save us would help though and would be a bad idea for the longer term
     
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  9. Le Tissier's Laces

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    But if we stick with Russ longer term, we go down. We (might) go up again. We go down. Rinse and repeat until we don’t go up again.
     
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    It’s not going to help us in the long term if we’re relegated. It’s probably too late, we should have got a journeyman in after 5 games. The best thing for the long term is staying in the PL.
     
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    Which tbf to SR was what they said to me. The critical part is staying up in that first year.
     
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    Not sure anyone has mentioned bringing in a journeyman.

    In fact I wondered earlier if we may try to tempt Carsley.
     
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  13. Lovelocum

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    I’d take a journeyman now. The football can’t get much more boring, we might pick up a few points. Mathematically we’re far from relegated, could pull off a great escape.
     
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    Potentially the same with any manager for clubs of our size
     
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    I'm looking for signs of improvement and adaptation and I'm not seeing them.

    There's belief and there's lack of ability. I'm veering heavily towards the lack of ability end of the spectrum now. Belief in something that doesnt exist is delusion and RM is truly kidding himself if he thinks that this side will be able to win games never mind survive in the premiership following these current principles. He has had games and international breaks to look at and address the costly errors and lack of attacking threat and its not improved even remotely to my eyes.

    Other teams make mistakes in possession but can recover - ours are soo costly that we invariably concede.
    Other teams turn possession into chances, we turn possession into vulnerabilities.

    Its not working Russ.
     
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    Sack the manager that got you promoted after 5 games … classy

    Cortese days were different days
    Where’s our next Poch, Mane, Morgan going to come from
    But, we might get clever/lucky, who knows?
     
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  17. Lovelocum

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    Are we really smaller than Bournemouth, Brighton, Brentford, Ipswich, Leicester?
     
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    shoot_spiderman Power to the People

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    Who’s never managed in the Prem and mainly been a caretaker when he has managed?

    I do t think so
     
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  19. Lovelocum

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    Yes we got promoted, by the skin of our teeth.

    Many felt RM’s project was likely to fail in the PL. It was obvious by about 5-6 games that he wasn’t up to it. Another 5-6 games and surprise surprise there are no signs of improvement.

    Context.
     
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  20. shoot_spiderman

    shoot_spiderman Power to the People

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    The first 3 are doing what we did previously, how long will their days in the sun last?

    How about Leeds, Norwich, Coventry, Sunderland, the Sheffields etc?
     
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