Off Topic US General Election

Think it’s worthwhile for a few days mods!!


The 60th US presidential election will decide the 47th president – widely held to be the most powerful job in the world – and 50th vice-president. The candidates and their supporters are describing it as the most important election of their lifetimes, with democracy and the American way of life at stake. Record amounts of money have been raised and spent on campaign ads and ground games. Media coverage in print, on TV, online and on podcasts has never been more intense – or more polarised.

All 435 seats in the House of Representatives are up for grabs, along with 34 of the 100 seats in the Senate, which together will decide the membership of the 119th US Congress. Thirteen state and territorial governorships and numerous other state and local elections will take place.

Voters in 41 states will consider a total of 159 ballot initiatives. Ten states including Arizona, Colorado and Florida have abortion-related measures on the ballot. Florida, North Dakota and South Dakota are considering whether to legalise marijuana.

How are people voting?
It no longer makes sense to talk solely about “election day”. Tens of millions of people have voted early by mail or in-person, thereby avoiding long queues, potential bad weather or other inconveniences. Georgia’s first day of early voting “shattered records”, according to state officials, while an “unheard of” 97,000-plus voted on day one in Wisconsin.

Democrats encouraged people to vote by mail in 2020 to avoid exposure to Covid-19 during the pandemic and fought legal battles to expand absentee voting. Trump, by contrast, falsely claimed that the practice was rife with fraud (it is extremely rare), although Republicans have since changed their messaging and increasingly embraced it.

With the exception of Alabama, Mississippi and New Hampshire, all states give voters the chance to cast a ballot in person at a polling place ahead of election day, according to the National Conference of State Legislatures.

Most states begin counting those ballots on election day, and some require officials to wait until polls are closed to begin counting. Some states offer a version of early voting called “in-person absentee” voting, in which a voter can obtain and submit an absentee ballot in person at a polling place before election day.

Most states offer some form of absentee voting, in which a voter requests a ballot in advance and returns it by mail. Some offer voters the option of returning absentee ballots to a secure dropbox. Eight states practice “all-mail” elections in which all registered voters receive a ballot in the mail, whether or not they plan to use it.

Federal law requires states to send absentee ballots to military voters and voters overseas. Most states allow officials to immediately process absentee ballots but some require them to wait until election day to begin processing ballots – which can slow the release of election results.

On election day, which is 5 November this year, everyone else goes to polling places to cast their vote. Once ballots are tallied, results start being released.

Who are the presidential candidates?
Kamala Harris, 60, the current vice-president, won the Democratic party’s nomination after Joe Biden ended his re-election bid. She is a former senator, California attorney general and San Francisco prosecutor and is bidding to make history as the first woman and first woman of colour to be elected president in America’s 248-year history.

Donald Trump, 78, the Republican nominee, is making make his third consecutive run for the White House. The businessman and reality TV star continues to repeat his false claim that Democrats stole the 2020 election from him. He is the first president to be impeached twice and convicted of a crime. Trump is also the oldest major party nominee in history and this summer survived two assassination attempts.

Chase Oliver, 39, is the little-known candidate for the Libertarian party. Oliver ran for a Georgia state senate seat in 2022 and garnered 2% of the vote. The party, which prioritises small government and individual freedoms, typically gains 3% or less of the national vote but its members could yet prove crucial in swing states.

Jill Stein, 74, a physician who ran under the Green party in 2016, is running again in 2024. She launched her current campaign accusing Democrats of betraying their promises “for working people, youth and the climate again and again – while Republicans don’t even make such promises in the first place”.

Cornel West, 71, is running as an independent candidate. The political activist, philosopher and academic is making an effort to attract more progressive, Democratic-leaning voters.

What are the paths to victory?
Democrats have won the national popular vote in seven of the past eight presidential elections. But the Republicans George W Bush and Donald Trump won the White House by gaining more than 270 votes in the all-important electoral college.

Each state counts its votes separately. With two exceptions – Nebraska and Maine – the winner of a state gets all of its electoral votes. Each state has a number of electors based on the number of congressional districts it has, plus two additional votes representing the state’s Senate seats. Washington DC has three electoral votes, despite having no voting representation in Congress.

This year the electoral college will probably come down to seven crucial battleground states – Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, Nevada, North Carolina, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin. The Harris and Trump campaigns are eyeing multiple combinations that could put them over the top.

Pennsylvania, which carries 19 electoral college votes, is the ultimate prize and has been the focus of much campaigning. Along with Michigan and Wisconsin, it forms a “blue wall” won by Barack Obama, lost by Hillary Clinton and won by Joe Biden. Trump is targeting rural blue-collar voters; Harris is aiming to turn out Black voters in big cities.

Losses in these states might be offset by victories in Arizona, where Trump has made gains among Latino voters; Nevada, the most diverse swing state; and Georgia, long a red state which Biden narrowly flipped in 2020. Republicans have won North Carolina in every election since 2012 but Democrats are running close this time.

Democrats currently control the Senate but face a tough map this year. Democrats and senators who caucus with them currently occupy seven of the eight most competitive seats, including Montana and Ohio, which generally lean Republican.

The House is likely to hinge on 42 of the most competitive elections. Republicans could retain control by winning just 12 of the 26 seats rated as toss-ups by the Cook Political Report if they also win seats deemed “likely” or “lean” Republican.

 

Mental that it's even remotely close. Really can't wrap my head around it

 

Sick of hearing about it.
And every time I do I'm left shaking my head in disbelief. The most powerful country in the world and that's the choice they have!! But then when you see, and hear a lot of them talk, they perhaps get what they deserve. ****ed up world.

 

Im glad I dont live in the US. The mentality is absolutely broken.

 

I will predict that whoever wins on the day that won't be the end of it. The voting system seems all to cock, apparently 75 million have already voted. There is footage of a ballot paper drop off box (what even is that) on fire destroying all the papers and some sort of electronic voting machine having a malfunction. America land of the free, the world's policeman, heavily critical of other regimes dodgy voting systems and yet their own system is shall we say questionable.

 

Whenever I feel disillusioned with the UK, I always think thank **** I'm not American

 

Unfortunately there’s so much fake news about now it’s difficult to know the truth
HVe you seen the trump conspiracy doc on I player??
There’s tape of trump slating the republican senator who denied there was any corruption in 2016 and he had verified it was all fair
And trump was telling him to change it

 

Madness to have let Biden run, a shocking President, Trump would have won comfortably however Harris has closed the gap. The whole election and choice for Americans is embarrassing.

 

She absolutely hammered trump in the face to face so much so trump refused another one

but she is no great shakes either

 

Betfair 4/7 Trump... 11/8 Harris..

 

Harris an unelected party member Presidential candidate..

 

Close the thread

 

Or letting Biden start was a very clever ploy?

 

Hopefully Trump wins. Pure bants.

 

So, can’t mention politics in the UK, mention left or right or Starmer or OLM will delete your posts but can mention politics in the USA? Close this thread now if you are going to be consistent on the no politics no religion rule.

 

(c) Ehab Allme

 

Soon enough, it'll go down the same well trodden path. That is all.



The views expressed in my posts are not necessarily mine.

 

There was an uk election thread on here
A few months ago

You dingbat

 

....or allow threads specifically for those topics? If you don't want to read them then just don't open them to read.

 

Start a thread about Starmer and the budget and OLM will close it without saying if you don’t want to read them don’t open them. Same if you mention religion. Or one particular religion, Mocking another seems acceptable.