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Martin O'Neill - Is he past his best?

Discussion in 'Newcastle United' started by Hugh Briss, Dec 2, 2011.

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  1. calmcumbrian

    calmcumbrian Well-Known Member

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    joker wants to change his user name..replacing jo with wan,if he carries on spouting rubbishl!
     
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  2. biggeordiedave

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    <laugh>
     
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  5. mag la rue

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    Think he's a good appointment for them to be honest. Certainly not past his best and I would have taken him last year bearing in mind the other managerial appointments made over the years. He's got the time to gauge the squad before making changes in January and the ability to maintain their premier league status (which is why I would have taken him). But I do think he's overrated. Premiership he got Leicester mid table in an era when there wasn't as much of a gap. Villa he held them in the midst of the mid table group but never seemed able to push on. Can't really comment much on the Scottish League, he won it, but so did Strachan.
    He seems quite a disciplinarian and I don't think the current squad of players will like that. He also likes to spend money and needs a lot of it to overhaul the team. Will their chairman ship out £45 million to see them tread water? The big issue is managers cope in different ways at different clubs and you can run through several teams currently in the premier league to see that. How O'neill copes at Sunderland could be totally different to how he's managed in the past (and I say that fully aware I've questioned his achievements at his past clubs).
     
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  6. JohnHumbles,tape recorder

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    [QUOTE=Cestriamackem

    Never went away. Just attention seeking and now I've got yours.

    Swivel cock breath.

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    think this thread should be left to die now
     
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    10/1 O'neill...blows it.<somersault>
     
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  11. nufc4life

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    hopefully for them they can improve with oneill,but i dont want them to ha ha
     
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    I do but not too much, If they stay up we can't beat them next season.
     
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  13. Clarence Acuna

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    He's a good manager, and he's not past it. The one thing is that Colback, Noble and Laing won't feature much more. O'Neill never develops youth and will curtail any youth development Sunderland have. He will buy experience and ignore upcoming players. He did this at villa, which is why he ultimately left, Lerner asked he blooded academy players to cut their cloth, MON just wanted to buy premier league veterans.
     
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  14. Arfa's Left Foot

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    O'Neill is a strange one. Proven class manager and he gets results. A lot of his signings seem to flop with a few doing really well. He likes to spend big. So he will probably get Sunderland up the table a bit and get them into the top half. However he'll spend a lot of money on **** players.

    I'm just glad we didn't get him, Ashley would never have given him money and he would have left us similarly to how he left Villa.
     
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    I'm trembling with fear.... Well, that's not altogether completely truthful. Infact, I'm very much looking forward to the future.
     
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  16. blackcatsteve

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    huh!

    he bought Young at 21 I think, Milner at 22, he played Albrighton and Agbonlahor got 38 games in his MON first season.

    So he does bring and buy youth, whether he does it with us or not remains to be seen, but if there isnt any money, he hasnt got much of a choice has he.

    and lets be honest, Bruce was never really great with the youth for us, Henderson is the only one really, and Colback this season, not exactly an overflowing of youth though saying as though we have one of the best Accadamies for younger players in the country.
     
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    :) :) :) :)
     
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    [QUOTE=Arfa's Left Foot;

    I'm just glad we didn't get him,

    And me. <ok>
     
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    http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/s...rsquoneill-was-fansrsquo-choice-15025166.html

    When Alan Pardew takes his seat at St James&#8217; Park on Saturday he will be well aware that he wasn&#8217;t the fans&#8217; choice for the job.

    Passionate Geordies wanted former Northern Ireland skipper Martin O&#8217;Neill to step into the Newcastle United hotseat following Chris Hughton&#8217;s departure.

    Pardew trailed in last in an on-line poll carried out in the local Evening Chronicle newspaper, where supporters were asked to name their favoured candidate for the vacant post.

    The former West Ham manager, sacked by League One Southampton in August, polled less than two per cent of the vote, well behind Hughton.

    The voting was topped with 42 per cent by O'Neill, however the Kilrea man was never a serious candidate given the financial constrains the new man will have to work under, and Maritn Jol, who ruled himself out of the running earlier this week, scored 33 per cent.

    Those constraints are likely to see Pardew, who will earn a basic salary in the region of £750,000-a-year in addition to performance related incentive bonuses on a lengthy contract, receive only a modest transfer kitty in January.

    With Newcastle currently 12th, four points above the relegation zone, he is aware there is plenty of scope for the club to go backwards. Pardew will be the sixth manager of Mike Ashley's three-and-a-half-year Newcastle reign. Reserve coach Peter Beardsley will be in charge of the team against Liverpool &#8212; before the new incumbent takes his first training session on Monday ahead of the trip to Birmingham City on Saturday week.

    Rumblings of planned fan protests against Ashley to mirror those which met Kevin Keegan's sudden departure two years ago are gathering momentum in what could prove to be something of a tough introduction for Pardew, who can expect at best a tepid reception from the stands and, for that matter, a dressing room still loyal to Hughton, who led them to promotion from the Championship in May.

    &#8220;If they're going to fire someone as good as Chris, they have to then bring in a big name, someone who has won trophies,&#8221; Jose Enrique, speaking before any appointment was made, said. The Spanish defender added: &#8220;If they just bring in someone similar, it's a joke.&#8221;

    Certainly Pardew isn't as left-field as the appointment of Joe Kinnear in 2008, but his imminent arrival has been largely met with dismay, a view reflected by Newcastle fanzine nufc.com: &#8220;Hopes that the club had a viable plan to go forward seem to have evaporated.

    &#8220;Bewilderment amongst supporters has now rapidly given way to fury, with Pardew seen as bringing nothing to the club that Hughton lacked. Pardew is set to arrive in an atmosphere of renewed hostility that helped destabilise the club with disastrous consequences in our last top-flight campaign.&#8221;
     
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  20. biggeordiedave

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    Klytus, I would've voted that way myself to be honest. But we didn't get him, we got Pardew. Who's to say that O'Neill would be doing a better job by now though?
     
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