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  1. PINKIE

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    It generates money for state schools that otherwise wouldn't be there though.
     
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    Well the Adam smith institute are a neoliberal conservative think tank that largely engineered the thinking behind Thatcher's mass privatisation of publicly owned infrastructure. So yeah I agree, it is a case of who you believe.

    The main thrust of their argument, is that VAT on private schools will force them to raise school fees and then poor little Cuthbert will have to endure the shame of attending a state school because mummy and daddy can't afford the fees. Their argument is that there will be a flood of private school students suddenly swamping the state system and crippling it.

    Boo Hoo. The private schools could of course keep their fees the same and take a hit to their profits, but no, in the Adam Smith institute of free market worship, that is sacrosanct. In the real world however, private schools will not 'price out' their core customers to the point where the state system hoovers up all of their students, because their very business model relies on it. Indeed, private school's very existence relies on it.
     
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    I've got no argument either way on it mate, my only point was I don't take any tax savings/gains on face value, there is always two sides to every story, and if I say I meet them somewhere in the middle, it will be some gain, but not the gain expected.
     
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    yeah but i'm not the guy who tells everyone to go green or chucking orange paint over paintings.

    My climate change issue is with overpopulation as its humans that do the polluting (food, warmth, infrastructure, getting to school/work etc etc) and not people driving SUVs
     
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    I think they are an outdated part of a class system that bestows privilege on the wealthy and I'd see them discontinued for that reason too.

    But quite simply, they are private businesses. The fact that they have been given VAT exemption for so long is just a tax perk for the rich.

    It's about time it was ditched <ok>
     
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    Thanks for reminding me Bobby, I'd forgot all about the green thing, need to add it to my list to remind myself for next time. <ok>
     
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    If private is part of a class system, isn't driving lessons to?

    You can either afford them or you can't and then the cost of cars and insurance, all part of that same class system.
     
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    Yep, and driving schools, like any other private business will pay VAT
     
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    But still a class system.
     
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    When people like Richard Tice say they are worried about this budget, you know it's been a good one lol
     
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    What's a class system ? Having the ability to drive a car ?
     
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    Owning a car is part of a class system, and class within that determined by spec. Having private driving lessons is also part of a class system, depending if you can afford them or not. Having private guitar lessons is a class system, learning privately language(s) is part of a class system. Many things form a class system, not just private schools because you chose to just select that.
     
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    Buying a three and half grand bike and driving a monster truck is certainly part of that same system. <laugh>
     
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    There's a huge difference between learning to drive, which is within the reach of the vast majority of people and choosing to send your child to a private school with their £17k per term annual fees.

    I think even you know that.
     
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    I knew it wouldn't be long before the bike got a mention <laugh>
     
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    Not really mate, not a huge difference at all, it's all part of the class system, dependent on your spending ability and means to pay.
     
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    Football and big major music events have also become part of the class system, depending on if you can afford the ticket price.
     
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    <laugh>

    You could have just bought an old rusty bike from a scrap man, but class came into play. It seems to me you like to point alot, but don't realise you are actually part of that same system and engaging in it.
     
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