. Me too, I also for the sake of my health muted the Sky coverage at half time it was if they were not watching the game. Poor commentary is the norm but that was a new level.
Bit of a dinosaur myself. But at one time it was, no player can stand in a offside position. How easy was that ruling.
think i was taken wrong with my first post after the match when i said i have no idea why the goal was not allowed...as far as i am concerned (and for the sake of the game) the law should return to being in an offside position is offside, plain and simple, so because of these new rules i was not sure and from hearing two sets of commentators, i was not the only one. going back to the old ruling would hopefully also remove a good chunk of the pushing and pulling and standing 'on' the keeper to restrict his movement. none of this 'not obstructing/interfering with play' or what appears to be a modern term of '2nd phase of play' as well as removing the potential hazard of players trying to protect the goal and injuring an attacker or getting injured when it is a clear offside.
I've waited until now to post this as I didn't want to spoil the thread and the joy of winning. I rate Dan Neil very highly and want him to be a massive success for us and any better club he moves onto. I love local lads to succeed and I don't need a 'boo boy' every season. However I do think I'm entitled to hold an honest opinion without it being seen as a witch hunt. Neil worries me this season and he seems to have a serious error in too many games which, by good fortune, haven't cost us too many points. There was the needless sending off when we were in total control of Burnley, the ridiculous penalty at Watford and a few other, less serious, occasions when he's given the ball away while under no pressure. I just watched the Luton highlights clip, to check before I posted, and there are two real clangers. First is when he plays the ball, out of defence, to a Luton players resulting in a fantastic save by Patterson. The second is when he allows his man free which directly results in the equaliser. Neither had anything to do with whichever position he was playing. I've no idea what the problem is but this definitely isn't a player at the top of his game ... ... if Hume or O'Nien had made those two errors I doubt they'd be so readily excused. I hope he plays out of his skin tomorrow
I agree he seems to have dipped from last season. If folks appear more critical of him its probably because he's one of our own and we want him to do better even more than we do others. We also know he is capable of so much more too, which can frustrate. Anyway, I'm not one to get upset about someone venting about our players. Hope folk feel free to vent and criticise. It helps one to let off steam. It's not like they are in the crowd booing them, that would be an issue.
I think the point I was making on Wed was if Hume n O9 made those mistakes it wouldn't have been mentioned Neil got slated for losing the ball in the 1st half a minute after Jobe had given the ball away in an even more dangerous position but nothing gets mentioned I don't mind players being called out for making mistakes as long as its consistent across all players Neil played well on Wed n he was a big reason why we won. Totally right to call him out on those mistakes as they were both very very poor. I felt o9 last yr got called out on every mistake he made but never got the credit he deserved the rest of the time. I feel Neil is this seasons player to get called out Neil has been below his usually high standard in a few games this season but imo he's played more good games than bad now. Unfortunately for him people will remember the red card n the penalty incident for a while. Neil def has levels to still go up n hes been in the shadow of Jobe n Rigg this season but he's arguably our most important tactical player n RLB seems to really trust him. Wed was a good performance from him n he did more good than bad, he led by example in that 2nd half and didn't go hiding after making those 2 mistakes (in fact after his fault for the goal he seemed to go up another level, proper leader material that)
Not a chance mate, it would've been posted immediately, Prehab in seconds for a start. Yes I agree that Jobe made a mistake but it wasn't on top of others through the season. TBF Neil's mistakes could've easily cost us two points against Burnley for absolutely no reason, did cost us a point against Watford and almost cost us two more at Luton ... ... he's only played ten games so that's not a good average imo.
I hope its one of those situations where he is still adapting to a new role. As a more advanced player he could make mistakes and the cost would not be as high. However we are now asking him to be the defensive midfield player covering and knittimg things together, often dropping in betwour centre backs and any mistakes there are magnified 10 fold. I'm not too sure if we are asking too much of the lad. He clearly has ability but are we using him correctly? This is what the coaches get paid for. Glad I only watch games and don't have to make decisions on where players play and how the team sets up. Put it another way... ...I haven't got a clue but good luck to the lad.
But 2 of those didn't cost us points, he also played a part in the winner for Mundle so therefore by the same logic he won us 3 points. He also played a really good CDM role against boro, so gained us 3 points (just picking those 2 as examples) Neil gets called out for every mistake and others don't that's the point I'm making. On match threads I think it's best commenting on how that player is doing in that game. Yes he made a couple of mistakes, so did others - Jobe was also at fault for the goal as he didn't track the runner Neil played well on Wed n played a big part in us winning 3 points
He was fouled for the 1 that started the comments on the thread but it's not the 2 mistakes Smug is mentioning
That's what keeps being said but his tackle, at Watford, was dreadful anywhere on the pitch ... ... his pass out of defence at Luton was when he was in space and under no pressure. I've not even mentioned his wild shot, over the bar, when he was perfectly set up in the first half
Not by me, just the absolute clangers when it's needless. BTW you can't really claim a pass out to someone on the touchline is a match winning assist tbh. I just don't believe we'd be desperate to sign him, in January, if he was playing for a different team. Anyway, that's my point, I'm not making a big deal of it, just saying what I think.
That's me said my piece on Neil, don't see the point in commenting any further as everyone will have different opinions on him n his performances He was part of a cracking team display that had so much heart
Got the assist against Hull as well with the tackle, so add another 3 points there. Neil has been good in the last few games especially doing things that people don't notice and don't show up on the stat sheet. Had some shaky games and made a huge error against Watford but I think he's being unfairly criticised for things that are out of his control or just aren't true.
