What I'm confused about is the reference to the car driven by Chris Kaba being linked to a shooting in Brixton the night before ... so was it or not? ... more understandable that the officers were on high alert / fingers on triggers if the 'car' had been ... but it's left vague as to what the 'connection' was ...
I think for me regardless of whether the vehicle was used in a gun crime, how would I have felt if I was the occupant. I know I'm in trouble for something, I'm going to do a runner, so let's smash my way out of here - a scenario that has happened on the streets of England countless times for all varieties of crime and in the process of stop and search. It's dark outside, I got a coppers car lights blinding me, front and back, it's a flight scenario. Bang your dead....oh I wasn't planning on that scenario, cops in the UK are not like America, our police force is supposedly known as being unarmed. It was one shot and it was straight to the forehead. Hmmm. Not blaming the cop that fired the bullet, I'm questioning the process that led up to our cops firing a bullet to instantly kill a man in a supposedly unarmed police state. It's a bit like tasers, they were questioned about being given to cops, but with the instances of knife crime, it was felt necessary, and yet now, all the time it appears to be a go to weapon, regardless if the other person is armed or not. This is a country that has started to lock people up for words on the internet. It's getting concerning as a citizen looking in on the processes. I know the cops have a tough job, I know they have to make instant decisions, yes by driving the car the way he did, he put people at risk, but the human mind is sometimes to flight, was there really no other way of stopping this individual or even picking him up later, what was the haste?
Reading more about it on the train earlier. We have 2500 firearms but they volunteer for that part of the role with no extra pay. That sounds absolutely mental. Surely you’d want those people to have that as a very significant part of their role and trained to as high a standard as possible and compensated for that expertise.
Not such a sweet innocent young man after all I feel for his family but that lifestyle cannot be totally hidden from your family can it?????????
He's not mate, you are right, but deep down I always knew that. I play more in the mind with empathy, because my family was always in trouble with the old bill, and I just think that could be one of my bro's. As I got older through experience of dealing with the police, you use a more mature approach that can save you a hell of a lot of aggravation. I said in my previous comment, I don't blame the copper that shot him, more the process, which could include what BWood mentioned a couple of posts above. For me in the event of anyone being shot in the head by a copper, we have to ask ourselves is there a way that they could have handled this whole process differently. More material is being released now to support the coppers in what they done, but we should never accept a shoot to kill policy and question every instance of a fire arm being discharged, of lessons that could be learned. I could see why the victim took flight, what he didn't see and I wouldn't have seen is that a bullet was to enter his head....if we know someone is going to take flight, which is a high chance, what are we going to do differently to prevent this happening again.
tbf every time an officer discharges a fire arm it is investigated hence why this case occurred . My view is we have to have firearm officers and you have to understand the stress and split second decisions made in a case like this .
They still shot and killed an unarmed man, so what split second decision was that, one they created on their own terms when they boxed him in. What would have happened if they had let him get away, who would he have killed....no one.
In fact I'd say arresting him at his family home with armed police has to be a lot safer than trying to arrest him at the wheel of a car in the dark, especially in one where you are creating a chase situation.
well how else are you going to stop a car which is linked to a number of shootings and as for who he may have killed possibly another officer who got in his way or the next person he stabbed or shot
But he never killed another officer, and they boxed him in creating the scenario. If they create the scenario they need to be in control of it, they clearly weren't. You are just creating a lot of hypotheticals that never happened to justify a shooting.
it was linked to at least 2 shootings just before plus previous i.e. it was a vehicle used by an active violent criminal gang nowt to do with it's value .
It still didn't justify a head shot mate, whatever way you paint the picture, which is all the police and media have been in cahoots doing all day. I get he's a wrong un, ok well let's go around creating chase and block scenarios that we are not in control of on a dark night, risk other officers, then we lose control we'll just head pop him, nice and easy bro, except it's a cop out of the handling of the events when you actually have to shoot dead an unarmed man.
