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WAR! What is it good for?

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  1. Big Ern

    Big Ern Lord, Master, Guru & Emperor

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    That's been the standard operational procedure in Middle-Eastern conflicts since written history began. And your self-righteous anger is exactly why Hamas store their weapons in and near schools and hospitals, although you always pretend that they don't.
     
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  2. PINKIE

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    You can read through this thread where I've outlined why they do, if you can be bothered to correct yourself.
     
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  3. PINKIE

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    Depressing to see the views of young Israelis and Palestinians.

    Watching that young man respond that 'it's not enough' when Jeremy Bowen puts to him that thousands of Palestinians have been killed and Gaza flattened.

    And Palestinian young people saying that all this will do is make the next generation take up more arms and engage themselves militarily.

    These kids have had their futures robbed by psychopaths who want to wipe each other out.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/videos/clyl228gzx4o
     
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  4. Big Ern

    Big Ern Lord, Master, Guru & Emperor

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    They do it so they can show the pictures on TV, no other reason. If you think there's another reason, you're deluded.
     
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  5. PINKIE

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    As I've said before. Hamas don't care about human life in Gaza, it's all Martyrdom to them.
     
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  6. PINKIE

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    Thought this was an interesting graph, as there is a narrative that Israel has only just started attacking Hezbollah in Lebanon, on the back of recent Hezbollah rockets being fired into Israel. When the reality shows the scale and timeline of attacks from both sides.

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    It just shows the facts. Not that anybody really gives a **** I suppose.

    Got any of that bamboo stick left ?
     
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  9. Big Ern

    Big Ern Lord, Master, Guru & Emperor

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    LOL, if it was all about martyrdom then the leaders would be on the streets giving their lives fighting, but they're not.
     
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    What I'm saying, is that ordinary Gazans killed in Israeli attacks are seen as Martyrs to the cause.
     
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  11. FosseFilberto

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    No mate -

    Not saying that they don't think the pictures of destroyed hospitals, schools, refugee camps, UN shelters, mosques and churches and the thousands of dead civilians don't make for good anti IDF propaganda... they do...

    ... but the main reason for operating from underneath / close to such locations is purely and simply survival - of their fighters weapons and equipment ...

    They are fighting against one of the most technologically equipped military machines in the world, backed by THE most technologically equipped and most powerful nation in the world... with mainly light, hand held armaments ...

    So they make it as difficult for the IDF to obliterate them as is possible- the onus to do that with minimal loss of civilian fatalities is on the IDF and Israel - not just my view, but that of the UN and even the US and it's allies - hence the continued demands being made by those bodies - demands that are being disdained by this Israeli regime but for which, ultimately I believe they will be held accountable ...

    I see David Cameron has thrown his hat in the ring this morning demanding sanctions against senior members of the Israeli government... get the feeling that it won't stop there...
     
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  12. PINKIE

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    It's been mentioned several times on here before. Hamas are a resistance group, not an organised and tax funded army with bases, command centres, air bases etc. They are literally embedded into the fabric of Gaza, because as you point out, they have to be.
     
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  13. Welshie

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    That's not really what he said
     
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    It's exactly what he said ..."the ONLY reason..."

    I've just shown it isn't ... whereas you've just proven that either you didn't read properly... or just lack comprehension ...
     
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  15. Welshie

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    He at no point demanded the current UK government put sanctions on Gvir and Smotrich.
     
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    The pictures are real though. So are the dead bodies, killed by Israeli weapons. The weapons are also real.
     
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    Aren't they characters from Lord of the Rings?

    Who is Sauron in all of this?
     
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    Nice attempt at a 'save' ... so you are now ignoring 90% of the post to concentrate on the last paragraph alluding to David Cameron ... but without referencing David Cameron in your response ...

    Go back to the BBC live thread and read James Landale's 12:25 update ..

    "Cameron today called on the new Labour government to pursue sanctions against the men (Smotrich and Ben-Gvir) pointing to remarks they made encouraging people to stop aid convoys entering Gaza and encouraging violence by settlers in the West Bank" ...

    No need to admit you were wrong ... it's blindingly obvious <laugh>
     
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    Two Uruks .... and Grima Welshtongue <laugh>
     
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    The civilian to combatant death ratio is still ticking along at admirably low levels despite Hamas’ best efforts so we can consider that box crossed thankfully.
     
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