The Politics Thread

some little ****e nicked one of my chairs once and when i rang the plod the conversation went as follows
me " i wish to report a theft"
Plod " what was stolen sir "
me " a wheelchair"
Plod after a pause " was anyone in the wheelchair ?"
me " no because that would be kidnapping "

 

What a cult

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...I'm 50/50 on whether that was a typo

 

I had to read this, now you all have to read this...

 

If the contract was placed in the last hundred days then he is ultimately responsible but he really has better things to do than work out how best to provide wheelchairs in local hospitals which should be an individual decision of the trusts and not subject to political influence.
The Trust is quoted as saying that any charges made for use of wheelchairs due to delays are refunded.

 

So the foreign company gets paid anyway and the refund comes from who? Guessing the taxpayers pay that.

Like I said corrupt af

 

It must be hard being Bill Maher, as every attempt at sounding smarter than everybody in the room sees things like this happen...

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The Trust has to source wheelchairs from somewhere. It is quite possible that this is the cheapest way taking into account reduced loss and replacement costs from having them not locked up between users. Unless you've ever been responsible for sourcing wheelchairs for a hospital and know the detailed costings you have no basis for making an assertion that it is even the wrong policy, never mind being corrupt.

 

Let's see what **** For Brains is up to today...

Got to make up for that $60bn Tesla stock drop somehow...

 

...or is he too busy saying that you can't call P&O Ferries a "rogue operator" which unwittingly places Grant Schapps to the left of his position?

 

Starmer does not have a position he has a calculation.

 

He has a position, but only after he's told what it is

 

Not an assertion but judging from what has come out in recent years regarding the tories and liebour, safe to say it’s likely not the cheapest or most effective way for the British taxpayer.

 

It also feels like a stealthy way to cut the number of hospital porters

 

So your position is that the majority of NHS procurement is corrupt (that is the meaning of likely). I don't know of any evidence for that...the major evidence of corruption was from the Covid VIP lane where the Conservatives took the decisions away from the NHS. Interesting choice to call the newly Governing party by an insulting version of their name and the party that had been governing corruptly for 14 years their normal name.
There are many ordinary people working in NHS procurement trying to get good value for money for their budget. You should show them more respect.

 

Or perhaps to give them more time to do portering and less time searching for wheelchairs.

 

I am always astonished that the word taxpayer and similar phrases like taxpayers' money have come into common currency when they are manifestly a description written by a very right wing thought process.
If I buy something in Tesco and they spend the money I paid on something, no-one would dream of calling that customers' money for the obvious reason that money I pay out for goods and services doesn't belong to me the moment I pay it over.
The exact same logic applies to tax. It is a fee I pay for living in this country and goes to buy goods and services that I consume. As soon as I pay it over it belongs to the country not me. And there are some citizens of the country who do not pay any net tax. They have an equal democratic right over the country's money to taxpayers.
Taxes are not special in any way. The phrase taxpayers' money implies that the country has no rights to the money raised through tax.

 

Given their tasks are split between transporting people from one place to the next via wheelchair or gurney, or storage of items in the correct place, that falls within their job description even if it means them chasing around scattered wheelchairs due to courtesy-devoid dickheads leaving them where they last used them

What it does not involve is reducing them to that one Boots or WH Smith employee whose job is lingering around the self checkout to key in their staff code whenever the checkout can't do something properly, which seems to be every three or four customers in my experience

 

I respect the doctors and nurses plenty.

the contracts given to a small newly formed company with dodgy directors is what I object to.

I call Labour liebour because Starmer has lied loads. 100+ days they’ve been in power and plenty of scandal and shambolic stuff has happened.

 

What do you know about the Directors that makes you think they are dodgy.
It's fairly obviously an Israeli company that is expanding into Europe...but that isn't dodgy in itself.
Perhaps you can give some examples of Starmer's lies since the election.