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Match Day Thread Premier League, Cups & Euro Watch

Discussion in 'Liverpool' started by LuisDiazgamechanger, Jul 6, 2018.

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  1. Fox Mulder

    Fox Mulder Well-Known Member

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    I think you're in for a surprise
     
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  2. Ivan Dobsky

    Ivan Dobsky GC Thread Terminator

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    Yep. The Prem, it appears, just like UEFA and the FA, is run by well-paid, well-intentioned amateurs who have now found themselves heading one of the most lucrative industries on the globe. And now they're up against oil-state-funded lawyers who can pick apart any company structure and legislation and show the FA's lawyers up as some sort of yokel hayseeds. If only Forest and Everton could have afforded them...

    I tell you this, the NFL don't let foreign owners in for this reason - and maybe we shouldn't either. :emoticon-0108-speec
     
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  3. Fox Mulder

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    They could just set a cap for all clubs.. very simple.
     
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  4. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    At least we can agree on this.

    I am all for that. Give every club an equal footing to complete on irrespective of fan base or owner doping.

    If Southampton as an example one of the worst clubs this season can do the right things for long enough then under a cap they could in theory fight for a title thry could never fight for today.

    I'd like to see clubs at least having the possibility to aim for.

    Some clubs now are getting by quite well on 170 odd million ( most on wages) whereas some like say man utd have 3 times thst budget and waste it on mass8ve fees and wages.

    Get a wage amd player cap and be done with it.
     
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  5. Ivan Dobsky

    Ivan Dobsky GC Thread Terminator

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    I'm sure that was suggested in the early days of FSG (or NESV, as they were) and was overwhelmingly crushed by all the other members of the Prem. FFP was a reaction to City and Chelsea, IIRC, because caps were deemed unrealistic. but who knows? If FFP is finally dead and buried we can all stop pretending and go full NFL, which is what the US owners have always wanted, second only to a European Super League.

    And if City does get away with all charges, expect that to come back onto the agenda. You'll be alright now that you have mega-rich owners to plough some dosh into it.
     
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  6. Fox Mulder

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    Either that or let clubs do what they want.
     
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  7. Fox Mulder

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    The super league worms will come wriggling out if they feel threatened yes.
     
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  8. Ivan Dobsky

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    A 16-club Prem, all supported by various states and trillionaires. United owned by Musk, Arsenal owned by Bezos, Liverpool owned by China. I suppose we'd get used to it, and it would be no bigger change than the Prem kicking out the Football League. :emoticon-0119-puke:
     
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  9. Fox Mulder

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    It's been boring for a while now ... there's a whole load of horse **** about it being competitive but it's not.
     
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  10. Libby

    Libby Derby County, we're coming for you

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    One of? I hugely disagree with that description. We're clearly the worst :)
     
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  11. LuisDiazgamechanger

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    Imagine in the real world if the super-rich and massive corporations could just do what they liked and dump on the poorer peo...
    Oh, wait...
     
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  13. Fox Mulder

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    Exactly what is already happening.
     
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  14. InBiscanWeTrust

    InBiscanWeTrust Rome, London, Paris, Rome, Istanbul, Madrid
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    The only thing I agree with city on is why are deals being scrutinised so dramaticslly but interest free loans from owners is all well and good.

    That’s essentially free money being provided to the club and let’s be real, none of the owners are going to call back that money owed as they’ll just do some fancy accounting or put it into shares or some crap.

    Think was arsenal, Brighton, 2 main examples of clubs who owe 100’s of millions to their owners in interest free loans (loans which are devaluing as time goes on due to inflation as well).
     
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  15. InBiscanWeTrust

    InBiscanWeTrust Rome, London, Paris, Rome, Istanbul, Madrid
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    In football related news. Jones added to England squad for upcoming games. Good to see him in there, did his time with under 21s and was really good for us last year.
     
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    Some Dortmund fans not happy with Klopp taking the Red Bull job. Some of the posted comments read like those from some of ours when Rafa took the Everton job.
     
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  17. johnsonsbaby

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    The irony is, as the PL pointed out, city voted in favour of excluding shareholder loans in 2021 (along with all the other clubs except Newcastle who abstained).
     
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  18. Fox Mulder

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    Everton over 400 million.

    The simple rule changes are a fallacious claim from a regulatory body being brought to it's knees.

    The landscape has changed.

    Are all the clubs that haven't been allowed to pump in these loans just going to say oh well? I don't think so and they all appear to run on them.
     
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  19. organic red

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    Prefer he wasn't but the lad deserves it. He has improved year on year and is an important member of our squad.

    Can't believe he gets stick from some quarters.......
     
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  20. InBiscanWeTrust

    InBiscanWeTrust Rome, London, Paris, Rome, Istanbul, Madrid
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    Red bull just have very bad reputation in Germany so not huge surprise.
     
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