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Le Bris, is he the best?

Discussion in 'Sunderland' started by Wayne the Punk, Oct 3, 2024.

  1. Wayne the Punk

    Wayne the Punk Well-Known Member

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    With regards to his tactics, I know we are only a few games in, but I cant think of anyone who has been better.

    Any suggestions?

    Not Mick Buxton
     
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    LD19SAFC Well-Known Member

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    Far too early to judge
     
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    Evil Jimmy Krankie Well-Known Member

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    Terry Butcher?
     
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  4. Wayne the Punk

    Wayne the Punk Well-Known Member

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    Well you can still offer an opinion, a guess, or post something which adds nothing
     
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  5. Wayne the Punk

    Wayne the Punk Well-Known Member

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    Maybe I should have asked for the worst :)
     
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    steesafc Well-Known Member

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    He seems to have a really good plan A. The jury is out on plan B up to now cause we seemed slow to react at Plymouth when they came at us. A sub might have changed the flow of the game second half.
     
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    Advocat was tactically brilliant imo. He didnt have the players necessarily, but I always had a clear sense of his tactics and the reason behind in game changes.
     
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    Robertson Well-Known Member

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    He's certainly taken to the championship like a duck to water.

    In relation to coaching in general, I'd like to ask Le Bris what he learned from the poor last season at Lorient. Did it change his philosophy or priorities?
     
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    It’s a pretty low bar tbh. We’ve not had many at the cutting edge of thought if we’re honest. Even when we did they were somewhat stale and a bit out of date by the time they ended up at safc. I guess I think about the late stage of the Poyet run - but if I’m honest I dunno how much of that was about Poyet himself and how much was belligerence from the players after Gus wrote them off.

    RLB is promising. I love the thought he puts into it. His post game analysis is very sharp. I like the intention to let the players learn from in-game experience. However, if the players aren’t able to learn - and the foundation he’s built becomes ineffective but doesn’t evolve - then he’ll no doubt feel the heat.
     
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    cumbrianmackem Well-Known Member

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    Well he got tactics spot on Tuesday as we were looking at 3 losses out of 4 had Derby won.
    He got the game boxed off just after HT saw the game out with the lads in cruise control ahead of tomorrows big game.
    He gives the players a plan and trusts them with it, ok Plymouth was an exception but you can expect that from such a young squad.
    Very early days but it’s a thumbs up from me.
     
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    Wayne the Punk Well-Known Member

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    I was thinking about the sub thing before I typed the question, but as you say it might have changed the game, but it might not, suppose the jury is still out on his use of subs.
     
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    This. Ask the question again this time next year, if he's still here.
     
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    He’s started well but I’m not really impressed with his choice/timing of substitutions yet. Great chance for Aleksic to get a debut the other night, totally ignored. Waited far too long at Plymouth to change things - Browne should’ve been on a lot earlier than he was.
     
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    I'd be curious to see that plot graph map of passes/speed of play. If I remember correctly success directly plotted with amount of passes and speed was moderate, neither slow nor fast.
     
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    The sub thing is something that irritates me at times. Lots of people used to moan about previous managers waiting too long to make changes yet Le Briss seems to wait longer than most of our recent managers. Surely it risks more injuries when a player is obviously struggling by not replacing them earlier.
    Havin said that the bench has looked very thin in the last few games, hopefully he is more proactive when more options are available to him.
     
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    Cant say the bench is the reason for the delays, still plenty of options on there for me, he is just slow to change things , maybe thats the way to go, but we have a big squad even with the usual numbers out injured.
     
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    Mowbray was often criticised for slow changes. I always defended him and will do so for Regis too.

    Momentum swings on minor things at times in games. The opposition will always come at us at some point. There is no so such thing as a terrible team in this division. They are all more than capable. Sometimes there is a need to tweak within the 11 on the pitch first, not subs. Subs in football can be quite disruptive, as well as impactful. Timing is critical, and patience is part of that. It can be one break away attack that wrestles control back.

    I was reading some coaching stuff recently. Was from a top end european club. The essence was plan b is a last resort. First, and even second change, should be about improving plan a. I get that, players want that imo. Pundits often talk about no plan b, without explaining what b should be. Reality is you refine a, not revolutonise within games.

    I though the subs in personnel terms have been poor in occassion. But that is about learning how individuals cope in games. Regis is still a new lad here.
     
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  18. Mackem74

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    Calm down
     
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