Match Day Thread Fulham v Toon

[Roland Deschain]

Howe needs replacing but so do half his **** players.

I think the real problem is the two are linked. He stands by loyalty and effort above ability. He needs to be gone to get someone to properly sieve the **** out of this squad. How is Murphy and Burn still playing for a club allegedly aiming for top 4, whilst Tonali sits on the bench.

Didn’t see or hear the match, genuinely couldn’t really be arsed, we just feel very turgid and flat. Are the players invested in this anymore?

 

[Sheikh_of_Araby]

Don’t think it’s the result what’s pissing people off mate, it’s the performances. Half the team look like they just can’t be arsed

More arsed about the lack of intensity, desire and passion.

That has gone.

 

[Howes tactically useless]

First defeat of the season…

the state.

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Another **** performance. Under Eddie bullet proof Howe.

Hes crap.

 

[Darren Peacock’s Ponytail]

I just said that on Twitter.
He has probably had some impact.

Who are you on twitter?

 

[Fox Mulder]

That’s a snapshot in time. You’re right he should have passed it.

But that first half was unacceptable for any manager let alone one who has been given 450m to spend and benches Tonali and plays Willock?

Howe is trying to be too clever these days.... the side thinks it can just turn up and slowly build into games like a top side, but the blokes got players that are not good enough to carry that out.

The thing we have to remember is that we're nowhere near a top 6 club and finishing 4th has actually been damaging to fans expectations

This side isn't going to be finishing in the top 7..there's quite simply far too many sub grade players.

 

[Welshie]

Results over the season so far have been fine, we got spanked by Fulham who are an OK side.

But like, how we play, our transfer window, the noises coming from the club- They're all concerning.

I just want something exciting, it's like having Keir Starmer running the club "its gonna get worse before it gets better" vibes.

"no money in the pot" constantly. Ex-bournemouth manager hiring ex-bournemouth players.

 

[Sheikh_of_Araby]

Who are you on twitter?

As Rodney Trotter once said - "one of the faces."

 

[Charlie Dogscock]

Howe is trying to be too clever these days.... the side thinks it can just turn up and slowly build into games like a top side, but the blokes got players that are not good enough to carry that out.

The thing we have to remember is that we're nowhere near a top 6 club and finishing 4th has actually been damaging to fans expectations

This side isn't going to finishing in the top 7..there's quite simply far too many sub grade players.

It's like ya had this little ****er pre-written for when we finally lost.

 

[Leo Billy]

Loyalty gets you no where in football, being ruthless does. Longstaff, Burn and Murphy should be no where near this first team. I saw 3 occasions Murphy couldn’t control the ball and let it out for a throw, killing our momentum. It’s the little things in matches what make a difference

it’s like how pep always says “if the player doesn’t want to be here, he can go” no matter how important that player is.. ruthless. A winner.

 

[Welshie]

Howe is trying to be too clever these days.... the side thinks it can just turn up and slowly build into games like a top side, but the blokes got players that are not good enough to carry that out.

The thing we have to remember is that we're nowhere near a top 6 club and finishing 4th has actually been damaging to fans expectations

This side isn't going to be finishing in the top 7..there's quite simply far too many sub grade players.

I dont think Newcastle fans, overall, have too high expectations at all.

In fact, I am concerned that Newcastle fans have quite honestly **** expectations and don't push the club at all.

 

[Fox Mulder]

Another **** performance. Under Eddie bullet proof Howe.

Hes crap.

I would say Howes still doing well tbh, but it's football and all it takes is 4 or 5 defeats and even the cult will start slipping in a few suggestions about replacements.

On a separate note it's absolutely abundantly clear that Gordon was super excited to be joining pool and he doesn't want to be at the club...he's not the only one either.

 

[Charlie Dogscock]

Loyalty gets you no where in football, being ruthless does. Longstaff, Burn and Murphy should be no where near this first team. I saw 3 occasions Murphy couldn’t control the ball and let it out for a throw. It’s the little things in matches what make a difference

it’s like how pep always says “if the player doesn’t want to be here, he can go” no matter how important that player is.. ruthless. A winner.

Well all those 3 want to be here for sure, it was just an off day.

 

[Sheikh_of_Araby]

Loyalty gets you no where in football, being ruthless does. Longstaff, Burn and Murphy should be no where near this first team. I saw 3 occasions Murphy couldn’t control the ball and let it out for a throw, killing our momentum. It’s the little things in matches what make a difference

it’s like how pep always says “if the player doesn’t want to be here, he can go” no matter how important that player is.. ruthless. A winner.

The difference between good managers and top managers.

Howe isn't the latter.

 

[Fox Mulder]

I dont think Newcastle fans, overall, have too high expectations at all.

In fact, I am concerned that Newcastle fans have quite honestly **** expectations and don't push the club at all.

Some and quite a few were talking Newcastle as top 4 candidates mind... I personally cannot understand why anyone would be saying that.

There's some players in Newcastle's sides wouldn't even be taken on a free by the big clubs and that wouldn't get a game for them in 1000 years.

I think I went 7th before a ball was kicked and I've not realised I'm delusional myself because there's easily 7 better sides.

 

[Magnet]

You watched the same game as me right. Did Eddie get it completely and utterly wrong the first half?

No. I’ve already said, I’m out. I haven’t seen any of the game.

That doesn’t stop me from commenting on the ridiculously OTT comments being posted. It doesn’t stop the excessively self entitlement oozing out of the comments. The stupidly extreme reaction being evident.

It doesn’t sound as if we generally played well. It does sound as though we improved in the second half but obviously not enough. Howe obviously made changes at half time to try and impact which they did but again obviously not enough.

Is Howe the worst manager we have ever had, no way. Does Howe have favourites, yes but then tell me a manager who hasn’t. Are the team the worst I’ve ever seen for us. Not by the proverbial country mile.

Some of your comments show a complete lack of perspective. And before you regurgitate about how much money we have spent ask yourself how much all the other teams have spent. Also ask yourself what their starting off point was and what was ours when Howe took over.

I’m not blind and I’ve watched football generally and us specifically for a lot of years. Have we played well this season, no. Have we played badly, no (over the season, not this specific game) It’s varied between the two. Do we have to panic, no. Should Howe be given time, yes. Will he be given time, yes but not long depending upon results.

 

[magpie290761]

Not different...you have a keeper to beat the other player has an empty net. Players do pass he chose not to.

He passes its 2-2

Definitely but at that speed with that opportunity no one is passing it’s a simple finish.
It’s just unfortunate. Schar miss which can happen to anyone and Popes blunder for their second goal were crucial but those two errors from two of our best players on the day weren’t the reason we lost. The rest of the team first half were the reason.

 

[Magnet]

I can give you many more

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[Howes tactically useless]

No. I’ve already said, I’m out. I haven’t seen any of the game.

That doesn’t stop me from commenting on the ridiculously OTT comments being posted. It doesn’t stop the excessively self entitlement oozing out of the comments. The stupidly extreme reaction being evident.

It doesn’t sound as if we generally played well. It does sound as though we improved in the second half but obviously not enough. Howe obviously made changes at half time to try and impact which they did but again obviously not enough.

Is Howe the worst manager we have ever had, no way. Does Howe have favourites, yes but then tell me a manager who hasn’t. Are they team the worst I’ve ever seen for us. Not by the proverbial country mile.

Some of your comments show a complete lack of perspective. And before you regurgitate about how much money we have spent ask yourself how much all the other teams have spent. Also ask yourself what their starting off point was and what was ours when Howe took over.

I’m not blind and I’ve watched football generally and us specifically for a lot of years. Have we played well this season, no. Have we played badly, no (over the season, not this specific game) It’s varied between the two. Do we have to panic, no. Should Howe be given time, yes. Will he be given time, yes but not long depending upon results.

How much time does Howe get?

With more investment.

You want returns.

 

[Welshie]

Some and quite a few were talking Newcastle as top 4 candidates mind... I personally cannot understand why anyone would be saying that.

There's some players in Newcastle's sides wouldn't even be taken on a free by the big clubs and that wouldn't get a game for them in 1000 years.

I think I went 7th before a ball was kicked and I've not realised I'm delusional myself because there's easily 7 better sides.

With the owners we have and the money we should be spending I just think top 6 should be the target and if they don't invest enough to achieve that the owners are to blame.

Howe I've made myself clear on and won't just go on repeat about it.

I don't think we should be ****ting the beds like, but there are obvious signs things are amiss.

 

[Magnet]

Who are you on twitter?

The same person he is in real life. Doh!