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Cards again

Discussion in 'Hull City' started by PLT, Nov 29, 2011.

  1. The FRENCH TICKLER

    The FRENCH TICKLER Well-Known Member

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    WHY ? Many have them over turned. The lad Herd @ Villa had his red card quashed and so did Jack Rodwell. It was never a Red for Brady, yellow at best. Just as long as they dont think Citys appeal is Frivalous then there is nothing to lose by appealing is there ?
     
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  2. westhulltiger

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    Don't think we are appealing though
     
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  3. The FRENCH TICKLER

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    Cheers mate. For what its worth Saints will deffo be top 6. You took advantage of our slow start to the 2nd half.
    No complaints and i really enjoyed the game. Dont think there was a bad foul in the whole match including the Brady tackle. Hope the ref. changes his mind after watching it again.
     
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  4. originallambrettaman

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    No appeal according to Blunderside, as someone posted earlier.
     
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  5. The FRENCH TICKLER

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    Now that is a shock. I wonder why ? Luckily the 3 games come in an 8 day period and end a week on saturday @ coventry.
     
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  6. PLT

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    Does the ban apply immediately this weekend?

    Isn't there usually a nonsensical delay with these bans for straight reds?
     
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    starts now unless city appeal. he misses Lesta - Birmingham and Coventry(a) on saturday week.

    NB now has Mckenna available again. But Chester and Rosie are close to suspension now.

    So i would say that Mckenna will start against Lesta in place of TC. otherwise same as Saints game.
     
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  8. originallambrettaman

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    Barmby has said in today's press conference that a final decision on a Brady appeal hasn't yet been made, but you'd expect it to have gone in immediately if it was happening.
     
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  9. Amin Arrears

    Amin Arrears Well-Known Member

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    IN all honesty, having just studied the Brady red card, I think it's debatable whether it's a red or not. He kind of went in one footed and got the ball first but immediately as he touched the ball sweeped his other leg in and took the man. Not sure if that counts as a 2 footed challenge or not? And the screen on my laptop was too small for me to see whether he had studs showing or not. If his studs were showing, I guess a red is justified.
     
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  10. PLT

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    How is it possible to slide tackle without your studs showing? It's a ridiculous rule (if it is one). If your studs aren't showing then you must be still stood up.
     
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  11. Amin Arrears

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    I think it's if your foots above ball height or your studs are pointing upright. If you wiggle your foot around a bit it's easily possible to twist your foot a bit to keep the studs pointing down. But I know what you mean.
     
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    I just watched the tackle, it's never a red, it was a bit reckless and a yellow would have been fair enough, I'm really surprised we haven't appealed it.
     
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  13. PLT

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    I can see the logic in the goiing over the ball bit, but 'studs showing' alone as a reason to send someone off seems totally unecessary and pointless to me. The point of a red card should be to punish someone who has done something dangerous or deliberately cheated, not just any old tackle as seems to be the case now. If the refs utilised common sense on issues like this they could sort out the real dirtty buggers out there like Karl Henry and Kevin Davies and stop victimising innocent players of laughably soft teams.
     
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  14. Amin Arrears

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    You have better knowledge of the rule book than me. As he swung his left leg in taking the man, after succesfully taking the ball with his right, does that make it 2 footed? Or does it only count as 2 footed if he goes in with both feet for the initial lunge?

    Either way, I've seen very similar tackles given reds for, and others not. And I think Rodwells in the merseyside derby a few weeks back was a very similar tackle which was succesfully appealed.
     
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  15. saintadam1981

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    If you watch it you'll notice that Davis was out to the right of his goal and we had several defenders running back towards the goal line beyond Davis which basically means he's not the last man.Don't take this in the wrong way because i like to be fair and it's my unbiased view,i've also said it wasn't a red card for Brady so i do try to look at things without the rose tinted spectacles on haha.
     
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    His first leg takes the ball, his second leg isn't studs up, it's just following his other leg, it's a but messy but definitely not what I'd call a two footed tackle.
     
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  17. PLT

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    It still doesn't sound very fair to me but as I said before, I haven't actually seen it.
     
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  18. saintadam1981

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    When i think of a studs up and dangerous challenge i see it as a player leaving the ground with 2 feet and basically crunching down on a player,no way did Brady do that.,not even close to that.
     
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    Nicky's comments on an appeal in today's press conference.....

    "We're in the process of speaking about that now, so we'll decide which road we're going down.

    "It's one of those where if you do decide to appeal, you're in danger of getting an extra game. We're looking into it."
     
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  20. Amin Arrears

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    Do you always get an extra game if your appeal fails? Or is it only if it's a ridiculous appeal?
     
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