Match Day Thread General matchday thread.

The draws were key not the manager.

 

Here we go.

Consistently preferring football to a need to bolster my ego on other people's efforts. OK

 

Quite a lot of truth in this. His record against decent teams considering the players he was blessed with wasn’t much to shout about. Losing to Italy at home and Croatia with a headstart was piss poor.

 

You’d sell your left bollock for Spurs to ****house their way to a trophy.

 

Fair point. We were lucky we were able to avoid the likes of Iceland, Algeria and Romania that previous England teams came up against. Southgate only had to get past the minnows of Germany, Holland and Columbia.

 

Sublime

 

Not too bright are you

 

Sven was closer to winning something... just met the best sides early and ran them very close.

It was obvious southgates England weren't very good.

 

Is anyone too bright?

 

Not really. People seem to forget that we'd had 20+ years of England going out against rubbish teams, under Southgate we usually went out against the first or second genuinely good team we met - that's a huge improvement. People will re-write history and that's their prerogative but I actually remember England pre-Southgate.

 

Not sure going out to dross under Hodgson and others makes Southgate’s mediocrity any better.

 

I can't argue logically with someone who thinks losing in a QF is closer than losing in a final on penalties. Abject nonsense.

 

Southgate isn't a good manager and neither were they.

 

Would that be the Croatia I remember beating us so we didn't even manage to qualify in 2008?

 

Then you need to think about who went on to win it and how close England were to beating them.

Germany did better than England vs Spain and went out before England.

Your logic is too simple.

 

Spurf's back

 

No mate. Different Croatia.

 

Anyone who appreciates the art of football will not support Southgate.

 

And talking utter ****, if he loved pretty football so much he'd be watching City or Brighton rather than Tottenham.

 

There is for sure but on the flip side he did manage two KO wins against big nations which we hadn't done for decades.