Off Topic JULY 4th 2024 6 months JAN 2025 ..chaos+ more fibs +roughshod attitudes+backtracking +++ C R A S H++

Totally agree about protecting politicians.

 

They had the chance to make an example of this person and they failed
An £85 fine is an insult to those who lost their lives being politicians

 

it is your opinion based on what you interpret or understand it to be.. whether facts line up or not is down to research to bottom out the truth!
Others read it different { to you]. A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THE UK ONLY SEE THEIR SIDE or one side of the coin as they dont bother to investigate its full extent ... pro's and con's ... as Clifton says .............

A classic is Rwanda .. a one off cost to save a greater amount.. it costs circa £40,000 [ a tad < ] for 1 year to keep them does it cost that for the plane ticket? NO and most planes fly with some form of back load be it passenger or freight!

ALSO note those making the decisions to rob pensioners are not worried about anything other than money they wont miss ... they get expenses for 2 dwellings and also a hefty "office" heating allowance that the tax payer pays for ..........

The basic annual salary for an MP from 1 April 2024 is £91,346. A PENSIONER GETS AROUND £13, 000 LESS TAX @20% A BUS PASS AND NOW NO HEATING ALLOWANCE !!
MPs also receive expenses to cover the costs of running an office, employing staff, having somewhere to live in London or their constituency, and travelling between Parliament and their constituency.
The Independent Parliamentary Standards Authority (IPSA) has set and administered MPs' pay since 2011.

• IPSA: MPs' Pay and Pensions (external site)

MPs' expenses
Since the May 2010 General Election the Independent Parliamentary Standards Authority (IPSA) has been responsible for the regulation and payment of expenses to Members of the House of Commons.
Business costs and expenses claimed for by each MP (IPSA website)

• House of Commons stationery and postage paid envelope costs

The House of Commons provides a cash limited sum per year for the provision of postage paid envelopes and House of Commons stationery to all Members; this sum is in addition to any costs that may be reimbursed under the IPSA expenses scheme.

 

boat figures in after a 6 day wait .... another circa £400,000 a week on the bill

First date in month crossing includes all for that month [ eg starts AUG none Sept starts OCT etcetcetc
10/aug/18........... 4
20/oct/ 18 .........23
3/ nov /18 ......... 101
4/ dec / 18 ........ 138
7 / jan / 19 ........ 48
14/ feb 19 .......... 88
19/mar/19 ........ 66
22/apr/19 ......... 64
1/may 19 .......... 150
1/ jun 19 ........... 165
5 / jul/19 ......... 187
3/ aug 19 .......... 336
10/ sep/19 ....... 201
3 / oct /19 ..........75
7 /nov /19 ......... 150
3 /dec/ 19 ......... 281
17 month's of records
=2,237

 

Who's bullying you, all we're asking for is an answer to Clifton.
You seem a little woke.

Stop pestering him

 

And you're not allowed to call them illegals either, as Mr Flip Flop doesn't like the term.

It's also about time they stopped the carnage that is the Notting Hill Carnival, or move it somewhere where people can be screened for knives, guns, machetes, drugs, corrosive substances etc before they attend, such as Hyde Park.

The amount of stabbings, arrests, open drug abuse, and assaults on Police every year is just ridiculous. People have again been left with life threatening or life changing injures.

If Starmer wants to stop certain behaviours, that's one he would do well to look at.

 

up to date [known ] illegal crossings now at > 6860 yesterday another £450,000 per week added to annual bill

this years weekly bill for trangressors in 2024 8 months, is currently £14,000.000, of which accountable to POST 4th JULY is circa £5,000,000 <----- THATS WEEKLY ................. if crossings stopped tomorrow, by new year that would be close to £100,000,000 average contribution for Labour, if average maintained at 75% of past 8 weeks would be another £3,650,000, per week [ ]
WE ARE INTO END OF 8 MONTH's of 2024 ... thats 2/3rds of the year gone ....

these are just 2024 figures add in previous and the bill is £bn's

 

They have no intention of stopping the crossings.

 

just updating the post from the 5th July

So the die is set.. 5 years of misery? some key hand over figures!

Still have the next 2 months as carry over from the TORY .GOV interest rates [ trending down ] currently 5.25% but a narrow victory to stay at that a DECREASE PROMISED for August [ happened down to 5% ]
Still have the 3 monthly inflation assessment [ trending down ].................. currently at 2% .. held at 2% ............... it was asked for by BOE and hit by TORY.GOV efforts from 11%

The annual debt ................ 21 Jun 2024 ........................,UK government debt 2024 - Statista
This spending was financed by 1.02 trillion pounds of revenue raised, and £1.28 billion pounds of borrowing.
from 27 Oct 2023 ... UK general government gross debt was £2,636.9 billion

POLICE FORCE .... CIRCA 171 -172,000

NURSES in England ........................ 25 Jan 2024 ... NHS England data for November shows the number of nurses and midwives working in the NHS in England is now at 372,411 – the highest recorded ... has increased slightly to circa 372,700

IMMIGRATION NUMBER TO 5/7/2024 ................
According to the Home Office, 29,437 people reached the UK in 2023 after crossing the English Channel in small boats. This compares with 45,774 in 2022.
In the first half [ 26 weeks ] of 2024, 12,646 [editted to July = 13,195 average = 72/73 daily ] small boat arrivals were detected. since 4th July another 7071 known boat people crossed in 56 days = 126/127 average daily

Last year, net migration - the number of people coming to the UK minus the number leaving - was 685,000. That represented a fall of 10% on the previous year.

THESE ARE JUST A FEW OF THE HANDOVER COMPARISONS THAT KS STATED WOULD IMPROVE .............and all FUNDED without additional borrowing or taxation!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

In 3 days consequetively this the highest total.... 1351 ... that have landed it means an additional £1,000,000 per week has to found... 1 plane load of 100 to Rwanda would have freed up ... over £3,500,000 over the next 12 months............

 

from Labour website!

Labour will not raise taxes on working people
Jun 10, 2024
Labour will not increase income tax, national insurance or VAT. Unlike the Tories, we have been clear about how we will pay for our first steps in government: by making the tax system fairer.

• Ending tax breaks for private schools, which exempt them from VAT and business rates.
• Closing the loopholes which allow some ‘non-dom’ mega rich people who live in the UK to avoid paying tax.
• Introducing a proper windfall tax on the huge profits the energy giants are making.

We will deliver economic stability with tough spending rules, so we can grow our economy and keep taxes, inflation and mortgages as low as possible.


Labour will target raising an extra £5 billion a year by closing the loopholes in Rishi Sunak’s ‘non-dom’ plan and cracking down on tax dodgers.

The gap between the amount of tax owed and what the government collects rose to a staggering £36 billion in 2021/22 – an increase of £5 billion from the year before.

The head of the National Audit Office has said that there is £6 billion a year that could be recovered through a concerted effort on tax avoidance. The Tories are only promising to recover £1 billion a year in outstanding tax debt.

Labour will invest £855 million of additional funding will go to HMRC each year to boost tax income. The plan would raise a net £5 billion a year by the end of the parliament.

 

One thing has become painfully clear under 2 Tier so far is that it’s they hate white working class people

They are now targeting smoking areas outside pubs, restaurants, sports stadiums and nightclubs under the pretence of how much money it will save the NHS

They are single handedly going to kill a good percentage of the trade at these venues, especially pubs, plus all the revenue they get from the people who buy Tobacco products

If they want to give the NHS some extra money then they should stop that clown Milliband wasting billions on the ridiculous pursuit of the Net Zero lie or properly start tackling knife crime and these continued senseless murders of kids !

Even the Tories saw the light and realised, it’s not what the average person in the street wants and that’s to see their Government waste money on a white elephant when there are so many more deserving causes.

And they won’t stop at this. I’m sure they’ll line up the Stasi to start banning foreign travel, drinking, meat eaters and the good old cash cow that is the British motorist

You will do as they say, or else it’s the Gulag for you !

 

been an interesting 24 hours 2 tier policing... its actually not 2 tier policing at all! It is actually 3 tier, the 3rd tier they dont bother to to do the proper aspect of policing like checking out crime, or bothering to turn up at crimes which we pay a massive contribution toward in our council tax like .......... well check out facebook [ I am not a real fan of the 3 or 4 likewise platforms ] I use it for very small items maybe 2 or 3 times a week [ only faceache ]
there is at least 4 maybe 5 crimes where the police have been presented with information photo's names and evidence, and done nothing for 3 or 4 days and told people they need appreciate these platforms wont divulge the account holders when attacks made on them...... SO HOW THE **** DOES THAT WORK, when people using the platform get arrested for comments at times of protest / riots, and then bear in mind some crimes that would result in a conviction like BREAKING IN, STEALING PROPERTY / CARS / CRIMINAL DAMAGE have it all laid on plate and the police just ignore it!

I know from talking to people over past 24 + hours just how much bad feeling there is against the present attitude of clamping down on non serious crime with prison sentences and no jail spaces ...so another .gov bad decision / Kamikaze instruction / jail them all.
Comments on here are mirrored by lots and lots of people in the wide wide world outside ... THE PEOPLE ARE NOT HAPPY!

 

This made me laugh,

taken from another forum

Liz Truss wearing her latest fashion statement

 

Children of Men a new thriller film ...............
It's 2027, Britain is a brutal police state and a government employee receives a dangerous request

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In an inclusive future those with the right views and virtue should have access to goods and services first.

The NHS should test people prior to any treatments to ensure the righteous receive treatment first according to their worth.

 

absolutely do as they do on the continent get you to fill in a form...main question would be have you a paid up NI contribution of at least 13 months