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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

Poll closed Jun 24, 2016.
  1. Stay in

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  2. Get out

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  1. Stroller

    Stroller Well-Known Member

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    Seems to be an awful lot of mental illness out there at the moment
     
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    makes me mad
     
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    Bit more info from the court case, the guy is a Romanian national of no fixed abode who stabbed the girl 8 times after allegedly getting her in a headlock...... a totally random attack on the mother and daughter who are tourists.....

    Not sure how the poor girl will recover from it but wish her well.....
     
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    kiwiqpr Barnsie Mod

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    Fantastic
    Only fears

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  6. Stroller

    Stroller Well-Known Member

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    Liz Truss sense of humour failure....

     
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    Didley Squat Well-Known Member

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    Young Australian girl l believe.............. The world has gone crazy, if it already hadn't.
     
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    Didley Squat Well-Known Member

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    If it wasn't so serious, it would be comical.
     
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    UK holidaymakers face €7 EU visa waiver next summer
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    The EU is planning to introduce its €7 EU visa waiver for British holidaymakers by next summer.

    The scheme, which the EU confirms on its website will start "in the first half of 2025", will cover people from more than 60 non-EU countries including the UK.

    In comments first reported by The Times, EU home affairs commissioner Ylva Johansson suggested the visa waiver may be in place by the May half-term holiday in 2025.

    She was speaking as she confirmed the Entry/Exit Scheme (EES) - which will require non-EU travellers to register fingerprints and a photo instead of having their passport stamped - will start on 10 November.

    Under the European Travel Information and Authorisation System (ETIAS), passengers must apply for a waiver, similar to the US ESTA, before travel, and this will be valid for three years or until their passport expires, whichever is first.

    It will cover travel to the Schengen Area, which includes every EU state except for Ireland and Cyprus, as well as Iceland, Liechtenstein, Norway and Switzerland.

    A Home Office spokesperson said it expects the EU to provide more information on the rollout of the scheme "in due course".

    The update comes as the EU launched its much-anticipated EES scheme, after a series of delays.

    In a statement, Ms Johansson said: "After intense dialogues with Member States, with you, with the different stakeholders – I have decided that the Entry/Exit System will enter into operations on 10 November."

    She said the ETIAS visa scheme would launch six months later, according to the Times.

    Ms Johansson said the EES system would mean "every single airport", "harbour" or "road into Europe" would have strict digital border controls.

    More than 700 million tourists entered Europe last year, she said, and the new systems would help Europeans "sleep safer".

    The rules would mean "we will know if people stay too long" and it "will make it harder for criminals, terrorists or Russian spies to use fake passports", she added.



    What is the EES scheme?
    Under the EES scheme, people entering the EU will have to register fingerprints, a photo and passport details.

    That initial registration will be valid for three years, during which time it must be validated every time someone crosses the border. This will replace passport-stamping.

    However, long queues have been predicted, with experts warning it could add at least two minutes processing time per passenger, compared with the current 45 seconds.

    Juxtaposed border controls mean French border police check passports as people leave the UK to cross the Channel from Dover, London St Pancras and Folkestone.

    What is the ETIAS scheme?
    Anyone from a non-EU country currently has to apply for a visa - unless they are from a special list of 61 countries, which includes the US, Japan and Australia, as well as the UK.

    People from these countries can travel within the EU's Schengen zone - the area where people can travel without border checks - for up to 90 days without a visa.

    However, because of the migrant crisis and security concerns over terrorism, the EU has decided to bring in more controls.

    This has led to it introducing the ETIAS which, the EU Commission points out, is "way cheaper" than the $14 US ESTA.

    The ETIAS will allow trips to the 27 EU member states, and Iceland, Liechtenstein, Norway and Switzerland.

    An ETIAS will last for three years and allow an unlimited number of entries. The document will be checked by border guards when crossing the EU border.

    The EU says the ETIAS system will "strengthen security checks on those persons who travel visa-free to the EU".

    What will UK holidaymakers have to do?
    Passengers will need to apply online or via a mobile app. The form - which the EU describes as a "necessary and small procedural step" - will take no more than 10 minutes to complete.

    The details needed for the application form will include passport information as well as background questions about criminal records or medical conditions.

    More than 95% of applications will be approved automatically within minutes. However, some cases may take up to 72 hours, the EU warns.

    Applications can also be denied or take up to four weeks to process in exceptional circumstances.

    The fee will apply to anyone between the ages of 18 and 70, but the waiver will be free for children and the over-70s.
     
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  10. Steelmonkey

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    So Channel3Now is just some bloke in Pakistan, with a phone and a laptop - and he'd been quoted all over the place as a main source about the "asylum seeker" story that started all the riots - FFS <doh>


    Pakistan arrests man over Southport attack disinformation
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    Authorities in Pakistan have arrested a man on suspicion of cyber terrorism, in relation to disinformation thought to have fuelled UK unrest.

    Police told the BBC that Farhan Asif was linked to a website which gave a false name for the suspected Southport attacker and suggested incorrectly that he was an asylum seeker who arrived in the UK on a small boat.

    The article, published on the website Channel3Now in the hours after the attack, was widely quoted in viral posts on social media.

    Unrest broke out in England and Northern Ireland after the fatal stabbing attack, in which three young girls died.

    On raiding Mr Asif’s property, the police recovered 2 laptops and a mobile phone used by Mr Asif.

    After analysing the devices, the police say that the account on X (formerly Twitter) for Channel3Now was found active.

    On Tuesday, police in Lahore said they had questioned Mr Asif about the article.

    Mr Asif said he had written it based on information copied from a UK-based social media account without verifying it, a police officer told the BBC.

    The officer told the BBC that Mr Asif said that he ran the website alone.

    The police report states that Mr Asif told them that he runs the X account with the purpose of sharing national and international news, and that he picked up the alleged tweet from another twitter user - without checking the authenticity of the information before sharing.

    The police say that he used his account “with the intent to glorify the incident about the arrest of a Muslim asylum seeker by police… and created a sense of fear, panic, insecurity in the Government and the public” and it is on this basis that they have filed a case against him.

    The police report also states that “Farhan Asif admitted to providing misleading information to the BBC regarding his accomplices in an attempt to divert blame to others.”

    Pakistan’s Federal Investigation Agency has since taken up the case and will investigate whether anyone further is involved.

    BBC Verify previously tracked down several people linked to Channel3Now and questioned a person who claimed to be “management” at the site.

    That person told the BBC that the publication of the false name “shouldn’t have happened, but it was an error, not intentional”.
     
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    And people, encouraged by Farage, chose to believe this over the truth.

    Mr Asif said he had written it based on information copied from a UK-based social media account without verifying it

    If this is true, I hope to **** they find out who it was that originated the story and bang them up.
     
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  12. kiwiqpr

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    Ahem
    After actually reading the piece it turns out he had two laptops
    We expect more from steelsy+
     
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    The second one was his pornhub lappy <laugh>
     
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    kiwiqpr Barnsie Mod

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    more mental illness in germany
     
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    Pakistan drops Southport attack disinformation case
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    Rioters surrounded and set fire to a hotel housing asylum seekers in Rotherham on 4 August
    Authorities in Pakistan have dropped a case against a man who was arrested last week in relation to disinformation thought to have fuelled the recent UK riots.

    Police said they could not find evidence that Farhan Asif was the originator of the news and so were not continuing with the case.

    Leaving a Lahore court on Monday, Mr Asif declined to answer the BBC’s questions.

    Unrest broke out in England and Northern Ireland earlier this month, after disinformation spread about the name and identity of the alleged perpetrator of a stabbing attack in Southport in which three young girls died.

    A BBC investigation had linked Mr Asif to a website called Channel3Now, which posted an article that included a false name for the alleged attacker, and wrongly suggested he was an asylum seeker who arrived in the UK by boat last year.

    The article was shared widely on social media and quickly went viral.

    In Monday's court session, police said that Mr Asif was a freelancer at a private channel and that they found he had shared news by a different social media account in the UK.

    After UK police had refuted the false information he had shared, Mr Asif deleted the post andissued an apology on Channel3now for sharing the news, police said.

    The judge asked Mr Asif a rhetorical question about whether he now realised he should be careful about the information he shares online.

    BBC Verify previously tracked down several people linked to Channel3Now and questioned someone who claimed to be “management” at the site.

    That person told the BBC that the publication of the false name “shouldn’t have happened, but it was an error, not intentional”.

    False information about the attacker spread online after three young girls were killed at a Taylor Swift-themed dance class on 29 July.

    Violent disorder then broke out in Southport before spreading to towns and cities across England and Northern Ireland, fuelled by misinformation, the far-right and anti-immigration sentiment.

    In the past three weeks, more than 500 people have been charged in relation to the disorder and at least 170 sentenced, many being sent to jail.
     
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    Starmer bracing us for tax rises and spending cuts in the budget, giving us the reverse of the spirit, if not the exact wording, of the pre election promises. Still, we can be sure that the cash raised will be used for reducing child poverty, making food banks less essential and getting families stuck in one room accommodation rehoused. Can’t we?

    But it’s the Tories fault, a line borrowed I think from George Osborne (with the obvious difference). More Tory behaviour ‘borrowed’ is allowing party donors (step forward ‘Lord’ Alli) to have security access to No 10. Bravo.

    Meanwhile Starmer’s little gang are planning to capitalise on their popularity in the party (at the pre budget party conference presumably) to change the leadership election rules, so that only MPs get to choose the leader of the Labour Party if the party is in government, party members and funders excluded. This will be dressed up as avoiding a ‘Truss moment’ but obviously it’s more about Corbyn and his ilk. Presumably in Labour’s second term (they are already saying they need ten years to do whatever they want to do - why not make it 1,000 years?), Starmer will simply hand over to Reeves in a triumph of democracy.

    Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.

    “The creatures outside looked from pig to man, and from man to pig, and from pig to man again; but already it was impossible to say which was which.”
     
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    Welcome back, Col.
     
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    Ha ha. Any thoughts on the points made?
     
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    Members of any party tend to be weird gimps not to be trusted making such important decisions.
     
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