I get the feeling I've been had here! Yes. Quite true. I saw it too Colin. An excellent post here AG, if I may say so. Hungary is the most 'technical' of all current Grand Prix circuits, and plays into the hands of the more technical drivers whose natural style is to 'carve' a turn using the minimum of tyre slip-angles. (Skiers who 'carve' a turn throw up the least amount of snow. Any snow thrown up can be likened to tyre wear on a car). Button's neutral style is very similar to Damon Hill's and is probably the most technical of all current drivers. Vettel is also very good in this regard. Yes. I agree about these possibilities for 2012, Bright. It will be particularly interesting to see how Alonso fares. As you say, he has a very pronounced preference for understeer (probably the most of any driver on today's grid). However, he is intelligent and adaptable; so I would expect him to cope. I also agree that Button and Vettel are unlikely to suffer. Of the other top drivers, Rosberg should not find it to his disadvantage, but Webber, Schumacher, Raikkonen and especially Hamilton will have to be careful not to wear these things out too fast with their more aggressive styles. Kobayashi may also find it more of a challenge than Perez.
Excuse me why are we talking about this? I for one have views that racing should be about going as fast as you can! Not managing fuel and tyres over the course of the race or stint!
Back in the forced-refuelling era, a Grand Prix was effectively a series of sprints which reduced (almost eliminated in some cases) the need for a driver to be concerned about tyre management. This made most strategies a no-brainer with very predictable results: boring races. From your post here, one would assume that this is what you prefer; however, by getting rid of the somewhat artificial forced-refuelling the question of tyre management has allowed this extra dimension - which was always a part of Grand Prix racing - to return to us once again. This is Grand Prix racing; it should never be considered as a series of sprints in my view. I prefer what we now have by a country mile!
To steal something from work, ALARP (as low as reasonably practicable), F1 is about going as fast as you can get away with, go too fast and it'll bite you in the backside.
Excuse my outburst there was looking at all this drifting chunking etc it was a info overload! Anyway, my view is the tyres this year have been good and I am happy with what Pirelli have done, but it shouldn't get to the point where drivers like Lewis need to completely change his driving style to be competitive. And yes the sprint age was boring and a strategy dream for some teams. However the cars at the start of the race are just too heavy and lethargic. They should have 1 fuel stop per race in my opinion. Also aside from that thanks for all the info from you Cosicave and the others on this thread, I really have learnt a lot!
Yeah. Sorry about that. (Incidentally, I didn't think of it as an outburst! In fact I thought you made a reasonable point, even though I do not share the view which was expressed) The trouble with some of these things (particularly threads like this which are my bread-and-butter in 'real-life') are that they can get a bit technical. Without the technical stuff, gaps in understanding are more likely to remain. Of course, ultimately, people can just skip the technical stuff if they choose; but when a member explains his lack of understanding about some fundamental specifics (as happened early in this thread), I suppose they deserve a response. Anyway, it has come to my notice that this debate has been referred to by visitors from elsewhere, including at least two international forums - which I hope is a good thing for not606.
I prefer the look of the refuelling cars, but I prefer the practice of no refuelling. Hopefully, with the new engines and thus, smaller fuel tanks, the cars will look closer to the nimble and fetching refuelling designs.
Who succeeds in F1 - the pinnacle of motorsport - should be the balls out fastest guy. Right now it's the one who can make his tyres feel all fuzzy wuzzy. Would it being balls out take away the strategy element and make it sprints? Perhaps... some might call that boring. But if the principle we're exercising is that races should be designed with entertainment as the main objective then lets add sprinklers and have red shells fired from (non-Red Bull) cars. It's a matter of where you draw the line. I draw it at designing the cars to have less turbulent air produced... and let the ****ers race. Fast please.
My standpoint of 'purist' is that sprinklers, and cars that fire red shells are very much NOT pure! In the purest sense, a race is about getting from point A to point B in the shortest possible time. Ideally, refuelling would be optional; just as tyre choice (including manufacturer) and engine configurations would also be optional in an ideal world; and the need for artificial gimmickry - which does work, I might add - would not be required to overcome super-efficient aerodynamics which allow the cars go around circuits amazingly fast by pulling 5G! But we have to be realistic. We need solutions which keep the racing both pure and entertaining; and therefore a compromise needs to be struck - just as a driver needs to back off before going around a corner, one cannot have ultimate speed without needing to also go slowly sometimes.
I'd prefer to see a selection of compounds at each track with the freedom to use any. That might add some strategy.
Drivers have been getting it easy with bulletproof tyres. It's about time they shook things up and went out seeking more aspects of why that driver is better than the rest, not all because he can drive the fastest in short stints but the other "99 skills" involved in race craft. If a driver really is the best, he will prove it with anything that is thrown at him, or he should be quiet and improve that area until it becomes irrelevant.
I don't agree with that, but you don't agree with me and I expected Vettel fans to say that as they don't want anything to change and Hamilton and Webber fans might echo my views. All bais SilverArrow! Even myself! Different fans have different agenda's and views. Maybe I'm wrong and that is your real real honest opinion all agenda's aside.
