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Discussion in 'Southampton' started by ChilcoSaint, Feb 23, 2016.

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    Less police, fewer staff on trains, better reporting, women feeling more confident to report.

    Or foreigners. Apparently.
     
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    In Russia they have sentenced a woman to 12 years in prison for donating $51 to Ukraine. Just putting this here for the couple of people who post about how much better Russia is than the West.
     
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    It’s stuff like this that show the “Keir Stalin” comments to be exactly what they are - hysterical ravings

    I wonder if good old Joe Rogan will come out against this even equally as hard? I suspect not…
    (And make no mistake it doesn’t matter that we “know” Russia is an authoritarian country - lots of his audience and their thin skinned god-king worship Putin and Russia)
     
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    He is authoritarian in a way they like!
     
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    Better than Fishy Sunak, The Lettuce and Boris ‘The Fridge’ Jonnson!
     
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    So Ukraine have now set up a military office on Russian soil. <laugh> <applause>
     
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    Hopefully it's not last offices
     
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    And the war drags on.
     
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    Privatisation was supposed to boost profits and tax revenues, but Thames Water shows otherwise.
    Since 1989, it’s paid just £600m in taxes while dishing out £7bn in dividends, largely thanks to tax manoeuvres during Macquarie’s ownership. Macquarie is now a key player in Rachel Reeves’ infrastructure plans.

Read more about our ‘Turd of the Week’ in the new Private Eye, out now.
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    Well done labour <laugh>

    Bend to their demands, give them a big pay rise… and then they go on strike straight away again anyway.

    Glad the ‘adults are back in charge’
     
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    As ever there's more to this shrill hysteria it's about much more than money, T&C agreements have been broken and other breakdowns in industrial relations. This partly explains, I'm to busy to go into further detail. https://uk.news.yahoo.com/lner-train-drivers-stage-series-100852627.html
     
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    I really wish you would read things before posting this stuff. The Union is happy with its pay rise, but believes its staff under LNER are not being treated fairly or with respect. The whole country not under LNER will not have strikes. Hopefully the LNER issues can be worked out to avoid strikes altogether.
     
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    The LNER dispute is unrelated to the recent 16 Train Operating Companies pay negotiations. Nevertheless, the optics of this are pretty embarrassing for the government tbh, and won’t win Aslef any friends either. Hopefully the Dft can step in and get this resolved, before Os head explodes. Or after that.
     
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    His keyboard and screen are submerged in foam flecked spittle.
     
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    <laugh>
     
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    Some clarification after Jimmy dimly-not-very-Cleverly gobs off about train driver's pay.
    Train drivers had not had a pay increase for five years, despite Rishi Sunak’s government presiding over a sharp increase in inflation during that period. Aslef members are to vote on a proposed three year pay deal, which is entirely separate from the dispute with LNER, which Aslef’s Mick Whelan said was over “broken diagramming and roster agreements, and failing to adhere to the agreed bargaining machinery.”
     
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    Of course it's a separate dispute. It still doesn't look great. Aslef's timing is odd too. Railway strikes aren't that well supported by the public and this won't help matters.
     
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    Deliberately not recognised as separate by Jimmy dimly-not-very-Cleverly and the right wing media. Fortunately they've been seen through by the public.

    There's never a good time to go on strike. Working to rule or contract as the GPs were proposing can be equally disruptive.

    What other action can be taken when the management break agreements on T&Cs and dispute procedures and all other avenues of negotiation are done?
     
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    I think we all know Labour are overplaying their broken economy hand. This from today’s Times…

    Ben Zaranko, of the Institute for Fiscal Studies, the think tank, told Today on BBC Radio 4: “The first thing to stress is that the economy is growing at a relatively healthy rate. Inflation is now back close to its 2 per cent target, unemployment is low. So when the government says it’s got the worst economic inheritance ever, we should treat that with a healthy dose of scepticism. When they say they have got a terrible public finance inheritance, I think I have much more sympathy.”
     
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