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HOW'S ARNE'S SLOT DOING

Discussion in 'Liverpool' started by Garlic Klopp, May 20, 2024.

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Yes,Arne Slot is going to be a success

Poll closed Oct 31, 2024.
  1. No

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    14.3%
  2. I don know

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    21.4%
  3. Yes

    5 vote(s)
    35.7%
  4. Impossible too call, far too early

    8 vote(s)
    57.1%
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  1. Zanjinho

    Zanjinho Boom!
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    Fixed
     
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  2. saintanton

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    Seems a bit too much like the "How's Arne doing?" thread, tbh.
     
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  3. Milk..

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    He's already climbed above Roy Hodgson in the annals of Liverpool history. Other than that though... impossible to tell how he'll do. Friendly results are meaningless.
     
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  4. LuisDiazgamechanger

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    I don't think I was biased against Arne Slot.
     
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  5. Germlands Nozzer

    Germlands Nozzer Well-Known Member

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    I went with Yes, I don't know and too early. Somewhere between optimism and realism.
     
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  6. johnsonsbaby

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    The players seem to be impressed with him. Time will tell if the fans are.
     
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  7. Bumps

    Bumps Well-Known Member

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    I went with three of the options
    And yet didn’t pick the one I thought was true <laugh>
     
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  8. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    Everyone will say stuff that's positive.

    It's body language after a few games when things get tougher thst tells a lot with players.

    Overall we've a couple of interviews, some staff appointments and a couple of meaningless friendlies to go on as fans if we ignore players playing rhe media game.

    In short he's hardly put a foot wrong so far. It's very hard to know exactly when he will as we won't really see the effects until the season kicks off in earnest.

    It's very hard get a team up to speed when at least 7 players will miss all of preseason that would be starters.

    Will we be flying and super intense day 1? Who knows.

    Will we be flying when there's 2 games a week due to the cl? Then we will see.
     
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  9. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    "I think even though it's a friendly, you always want to aim for a win. You should aim for a win even if you have a small-sided game during a training session. You need to win your games, you try to do everything to win"

    And thats an example of the right thing to say
     
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    Yeah, claiming your manager is a steaming pile of doo-doo probably won't get you match time once the season kicks off.

    Obviously, not saying the players complementing Slot aren't being sincere, but if any did have problems, we might not know.
     
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  11. saintanton

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    You can probably read between the lines to a degree though - see if there seems to be genuine enthusiasm in the things they say rather than just paying lip-service to being supportive.
     
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  12. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    We you can also assume those being spent out to speak are the ones playing games and the ones getting 20 to 30mins are not being given much chance to mouth off or not.

    Of course Jones and szobo amd Elliott will talk it up. Tjry are being given chances.

    If kind of interesting salah hasn't been sought out by the media. He often isn't interested in doing media bar the odd sky disaster where he admits he want to score a shed load of goals or whatever.

    I've not heard a word from him about the preseason training or his contract. If there's one person I'd want to hear compare the levels it'd be salah as it'd give us a genuine insight into how fit the team might be
     
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  13. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    Slot has commented that positions are "more fixed" in his style of play and tjst Cody gakpo is a lw not a cf so he sees this as a direct fight for a place between gakpo and Diaz.

    You might assume he believes that Jota and nunez as cf then

    So this will be interesting to ask about trent and other players like macallister.

    We all need to start getting klopp style out of our heads and klopp's opinions of players too.

    It looks like a Dutch 433 which really means a 4231 but not playing like say a Spanish 4231. If thst makes sense.

    The double pivot are not two destroyers they are playmaker passing the ball and controlling possession.

    The "8" is irrelevant number you've a midfielder who's not box to box and it's not a 10 who doesn't defend either. It's a central attacking midfielder joining the press.

    We were all about 8s under klopp and what we are seeing in the market now is a clear out of players thst are not seen as suiting the deeper or advanced roles as Scott wants a classic type of midfielder lfc have not developed or purchased outside of elliott or nyoni.

    McConnell is out imo
    Morton is out imo
    Clark is already out.

    This is a cull.

    Szoboslai should suit slot but he needs to work the press. He almost sits as a left side player in a narrow set up for hungary at times and that's not what slot wants either.

    High press and lots of running.

    Tbh I'm shocked Jones is even in slots thoughts tbh. I'd not be surprised if he fades away and gets fewer and fewer chances if slot does get to buy a player in the role.
     
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  15. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    Yes all.

    Unless you want to be stuck in the past.

    All includes me. I'm saying all of us need to start thinking about the positions we are going to see taken up as slot does not as we are used to for the past 7 or 8 years.

    A 9 to klopp was a totally different position and he didn't even have a 9 par se. Flash 9s or what have you. Slot looks to have a proper centre forward.
     
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    I think a step back is required here and look at the big picture.
    In ye olden days teams had a small, fairly fixed squad for years with only incremental changes over time. Nowadays, teams like ours are a footballer factory and churn out huge numbers of young players. We can't keep them all as there will be further additions constantly.
    The best will make into our senior squad, some will go on loan to see if they have enough potential, and some will be deemed unsuitable for our level and moved on somewhere where they have a chance of making a career.
    A new manager is bound to have a look at these players and have different views to his predecessor in some cases.
    I don't think shifting players who aren't part of your plan is necessarily an indication of a radical change of policy, just a different opinion on certain individuals.
     
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  17. Germlands Nozzer

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    Were Firmino's teeth a Flash 9?
     
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  18. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    Yes it's different to 1990, no it's not different to 2010. 100s of children start every year and are whittled down and cast aside to get the 1% (that sounds harsh but it is what happened with some off boarding care but not a lot)

    The 1% are added to by poaching players left right and centre to have a selection pool. Nyoni, nallo, Morriston, Stephenson, McConnell, scanlon all represent this while bradley represents and old school associate who stays home in Ireland and moves after school is done.

    Quansah and trent and Jones are in the 1% and in fact more like 1 in 1000 who actually make the final step from u21s to seniors at a top 4 club.

    Since academies were brought in the same flow of players has occurred.

    We have a strategy to poach and pay for planet out of British clubs

    Clark and doak and Gordon are examples of this.


    Yes a new manager has every right to look at players at his disposal.and make changes

    No a new manager should not be handed such power with no oversight and long term security provided by the technical directors. This is the fatal issue many clubs end up falling for where coaches and players are cleared out for no real reason and massive money gets spent buying in more that are no better.

    A club like say Chelsea are an absolute basket case as "someone" has gone mad with buying amd no coach sticks long or there any club who players or not.

    A different basket case exists at utd where someone has decided to just buy any old ajax player going and before that another person decided to not back mourinho and then suddenly back ogs by buying maguire etc for even more.money etc.

    So yes slot should be a part of the over all plan. No he shouldn't be the sole reason alods of youths are suddenly cast off after being bought.

    The very best of luck getting the next 16 year old in when his parents have seen guys being cast off here and there for small.money. they might just decide playing for their own club might be better for them or they should follow Mr bellingham and go to dortmund as they would play them.

    Our baby reds right now may have a few more of the 1% but it seems to me we have not really seen the tsumani of football coming and are quite happy to cash in at the technical director level as well as coach level.

    Let's face it Hughes hasn't a clue about the demands on a squad at european level
     
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    Can't believe I'm saying it but I agree with all of that.

    Optics is a word that's been around a good while and like it or not, it has crept in now when talking about football and yes, the optics of selling off some of your best youngsters isn't good. I've been reading around other LFC fan sites and there's a lot of disbelief at Clark being shipped out as he's regarded as one of our best prospects. Personally I don't know because I don't watch the academy games. Obviously a very small number actually make it but he's being spoken about as one of your "1%".
     
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    Clark is the only one of our best prospects whose been sold and reputedly for good money .
     
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