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Match Day Thread Cardiff City FC v Sunderland AFC - Saturday 10th August 2024 - KO 12:30

Discussion in 'Sunderland' started by RTB, Aug 7, 2024.

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Your Prediction:

Poll closed Aug 10, 2024.
  1. Home win

    10.5%
  2. Away win (safc)

    54.7%
  3. Draw

    34.9%
  1. Prehab26

    Prehab26 Well-Known Member

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    That's how stats can show you one thing but the eye test is the other. I can not believe that 65% and 37% is seen as good. Looked **** and we lost the ball many times

    Stats man. Can make them look to be whatever your selling. 100% save percentage <laugh>
     
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  2. Prehab26

    Prehab26 Well-Known Member

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    I thought he saved the header than was going wide and the one straight at him in the second half. Don't recall anything else.
     
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  3. Southern A

    Southern A Well-Known Member

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    Patterson numbers are skewed this week because he made a couple of saves that were gilt edged chances. Neither were “good” saves, both poor misses, but the data still shows him saving a high xG chance
     
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  4. SourPatch2

    SourPatch2 Well-Known Member

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    Take James Trafford last night, 41% accurate passes and 17% accurate long passes.
     
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  5. SourPatch2

    SourPatch2 Well-Known Member

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    Yep. Goalkeeper data is fundamentally flawed so I can definitely see why a data based team of the week has him in the team.
     
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  6. Prehab26

    Prehab26 Well-Known Member

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    Aye. Thought so. Eye test is always the one.
     
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  7. Scout73

    Scout73 Well-Known Member

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    So which GK was better than him in week 1?

    Unless someone has watched every match they have no idea who is the best so it might have been he was the best

    Made no errors n kept a clean sheet - yes didnt have loads to do but also wasnt bad

    Stats will always just be a guide, thry only tell a fraction of a story
     
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  8. Prehab26

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    That's what I am saying. Given what I watched I am surprised that no other keeper had more to do / had a better game. When watching I thought his distribution was really poor and had nowt to do, hence why I was surprised to see him in TOTW
     
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  9. Scout73

    Scout73 Well-Known Member

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    I actually found a lot of GKs distribution was really poor this week, patterson included

    Didnt watch all the games so i cant comments on who i thought was the best

    Those team of the week things are always flawed

    Not saying he wasnt the best either tho
     
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  10. robinoz

    robinoz Well-Known Member

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    As Churchill said “ there are lies, damned lies, then there are statistics”
     
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  11. Culinary

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    Not always at all, far too easily skewed by agenda and bias.

    It's why we still had SAFC fans saying that Bellingham had a poor game on Saturday.

    Mix of stats and eye test is 'the one', each confirming the other.
     
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  12. LD19SAFC

    LD19SAFC Well-Known Member

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    That can’t be the case, surely not?

    I’m far from Jobe’s biggest fan but it’s clear as day he had a really good game on Saturday.
     
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  13. Smug in Boots

    Smug in Boots Well-Known Member

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    "F*ck off Stalin, ya bellend, and get yer tache trimmed ffs."
    (Yalta - Feb 4th 1945.)

    That's one of his lesser known comebacks.
     
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  14. SAFC Wilks

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    Some people have an agenda.
     
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    LD19SAFC Well-Known Member

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    True

    I thought Jobe is lucky to be starting as many games as he has done but if he performs like he did on Saturday then happy days - he was quality.
     
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    Turned to my son at the game and said he was the only player I was disappointed on purely because of his distribution. It was slow and wayward most of the time, either putting players under pressure or going straight into touch.
     
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    I'm the same, thought he had a really good game especially once we went ahead.
     
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  18. Teessidemackem

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    From page 34.
     
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  19. Smug in Boots

    Smug in Boots Well-Known Member

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    <laugh>

    You're not on yer own mate, writing off players and managers quickly is embedded in the club for some reason ...

    ... despite people being proved wrong time after time.

    It's quite recently Hume was declared shyte, Patterson a fatty and RLB inept to play Enzo anywhere but centrally.

    Ballard was 'positionally clueless', Jobe exhausted and O'Nien unfit for purpose <laugh>
     
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