Off Topic JULY 4th 2024 6 months JAN 2025 ..chaos+ more fibs +roughshod attitudes+backtracking +++ C R A S H++

Free speech isn’t being denied though is it, violence is. That isn’t 2tier,

I appreciate you didn’t vote for the government, but they were returned with a massive majority. That’s democracy.

 

Yes individuals who do not share an established view are finding their freedoms are being curtailed. I highlighted a tweet by Nick Lowles of the right on extreme left wing Hope not Hate stating an acid attack had taken place that was fake, and a female who shared a post that was fake regarding the identity of the perpetrator of that recent murderous knife attack. The former was not arrested. Other posters provided their examples.

We a have a government, police and the justice system leaping into zealous action at light speed, full of energy and effectiveness when they fear revolt.

Labour are uttering nascent threats towards social media, fall into our line, or we will make you.

Immigration? Its is not a topic for labour, chilling (denying) free speech certainly is for Labour and its Ministers.

Still waiting for the first Labour Minster to utter " we understand there are deep issues regarding immigration, and we are going to listen .."

 

just saying he was the instigator of the invasion.

 

Invasion is a rather emotive term, I was merely pointing out there’s been plenty of opportunities to slow the figures down in the last couple of decades.

 

How about Labours use of far right, or fascist? Labours Clive Lewis has been telling people to fight the fascists. Here are some of the fascists he refers to.

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Students protesting about men being allowed into female changing rooms at the University of East Anglia.

 

Seen the Port Vale fans in Manchester saturday?? Having a drink in wetherspoons before going to their game and these so called anti fascists turn up thinking their the EDL and the police surround the pub instead of moving the idiot protestors with their Palestinian flags on.

 

at the time there was a very good economy and very little illegal immigration in fact hardly any immigration at all houses were being built "private ones" and it was down to councils to provide new social housing for the money they got from selling. you could almost build 2 new houses or a block of 4 -6 flats for evvery 2 sold [ houses] Flats were also sold so needed replacing ..... and throughout Bristol quite a few blocks of maisonettes were indeed built by private enterprise so blame council not .gov's

unfortunately they were gifted what they got as many voters stayed at home and the number voting for them[ labour ] was less than previously!

 

what did labour do in their decade and now?

700 illegals arrived yesterday from the safety of france??? smash the gangs seems labour isnt.

 

And they won’t either
Rwanda was flawed but it was a deterrent of sorts
And had the lefty lawyers not stuck their oar in and had any flights actually taken off, it would have been even more of one
Instead, there are still people drowning in the Channel and we’re still afraid to do what needs to be done and that’s to turn the boats around
We’ve given France £0.5bn to get their act together and they’re doing very little from what I can see
In Poland they now have guards on the border with loaded guns to turn illegals away which is what the majority of Polish people want

 

another 125 yesterday that makes it 4893 since 14th July that is 4135 or about 138 everyday.... nice little earner for the people traffickers about £400,000 per day Based on £3k per person and for us [ .gov ]
total bill for last month for a year being £137,000,000.................... criminal

 

Rwanda was never going to work, it isn’t a safe country regardless what the last government said, and the numbers wouldn’t have even touched the sides, £hundredsM wasted on a non starter. Even if we wanted to forcibly stop crossings, as you suggest, it would be logistically almost impossible, and only workable short term (if at all). That’s leaving the moral issue to one side.

it really isn’t an easy issue to solve, if it was it would’ve been done by now.

 

Look on the bright side, it gives you something to do and something to moan about.

 

dont eu countries and the un send asylum seekers to Rwanda?????

 

They’ve only had 5 weeks , if you read my other post you will see I’ve already stated it’s a difficult nut to crack, Tory’s tried for 14 years and failed to get a grip. Quite how you think Labour would solve it in 5 weeks is beyond me. Imo the only way we’ll solve it is with a cross party effort , and a concerted long term plan. But for now I will give Labour a bit longer than 5 weeks to even make an inroad.

 

i read your post it mentioned decades which is why i asked what did labour do in their decade in power?

in weeks labour have? given an amnesty to illegals to attempt to get asylum. asylum from france? how does this not create a red light for even more illegals to cross the channel?

What is Rayner up to with social housing with people born in this country, working, paid their taxes and can be at the bottom of the housing list behind people who have just arrived here?

You were asked

dont eu countries and the un send asylum seekers to Rwanda?
whys Rwanda unsafe??
have you posted things that are not 100% gospel truth from time to time?
if you havent have you posted disinformation?

 

They are looking at various countries like Rwanda and Albania for the return of their own citizens that try and come here and into western Europe

 

which leaves a ?? if Rwanda is dangerous why are eu countries and the eu looking to the country or is it only dangerous to the left when its the uk???

 

Pre election it was.....'We'll smash the gangs' and 'negotiate with the countries where these illegals come from' was Starmer's mantra.
That means Starmer and Cooper ...........will have to negotiate with eg the Taliban to send back Afghans.
You can't make it up. It's for the Fairies.

Ok and tbf it'll need time but Ashton, you, me and everyone else knows under Labour it will be a 'Free For All'.

 

Spot on !
Europe have finally realised, too late, that they are being swamped and overwhelmed by these freeloaders and are desperate to get them out of their countries to 3rd party places such as Rwanda and Albania.
Its ironic that people have supposedly travelled thousands of miles from what are deemed unsafe countries like Iraq, Syria, Iran, Afghanistan etc whilst going through totally safe countries like Italy, Austria, Germany, Czech Republic, France etc where they could have stopped. But funnily enough those countries don't want any more undocumented young men of fighting age from different cultures and they have woken up to the threats being posed to their own way of life.

The likes of Germany have been bitten many times for their hospitality, thanks to Angela Merkle's open borders/all welcome policies. I'm glad I visited Munich 10 years ago, as I wouldn't want to go there now. It's simply unsafe.

So you'd think they'd be glad to go somewhere like beautiful Rwanda, as the place looks stunning.

But what they wouldn't get there of course is tens of thousands of pounds in free handouts, free medical and dental care, spending money, and free housing, all funded by the British taxpayer.

Never mind stop the boats or smash the gangs. Stop the attraction of free handouts and housing while a lot of Brits cant get either.

We know it will be even more of a free for all under Labour and they have no intention of stopping it. But we've had riots already, and there may be more to come, and worse, unless Starmer wakes up and changes his policies.

Polls have proven that most average Brits are still outraged that this is continuing and yet Labour still don't appear to be addressing the root cause. Just hollow words

 

They also said it wouldn’t be able to be done straight away, it would take time, they were completely upfront about that. Nobody expected it to be done in 7 days. I’m not sure what you mean by “free for all”. Tbh I’m sceptical they can stop it all together, but neither could the Tories. As for Farage, it sounds good to say just stop them, get the Navy to take them back, but that’s for the birds. Anyone who tells you it’s easy is talking nonsense.