"What is occurring is nothing to do with us, its the thugs, its the far right, its social media, football hooligans, their on trains, its the trains fault, can't be us ..". These people have their heads up their arses.
Far too early to judge yet. We even give a new manager 10 games. Still trying to clear up the mess left by the last lot.
So Starmer wants to ‘crack.down on right wing thugs’ (his and the media’s terminology) and ignoring all that’s gone before it I wonder if he and the police will apply the same rule of law to the anti semetic and pro terrorism protests ? I’ll wait with baited breath, as they’ve done nothing about them so far and they have been going on since last year And having seen the full Manchester Airport video, the Police would likely take another battering
the PROBLEM IS Ashton ... the problem was being cleared up ..... and you, and others do not seem to be able to decipher the comments made by the relative bodies that are experts in their field ...politicians certainly arent experts they learn to do a job/task which might last a few or a couple years before being replaced The BOE panel are experts as are most of the people in OBR and other organizations ..the frontline tone of BOE yesterday was /HAS BEEN / it is all going fine for past year and future looking rosy ... their "forcasts" which are not really giving figures for might happen in the future are / were projections of what has happened and is happening [ up to 4th July] ... BASED ON THE PAST 12 MONTH'S inflation should/ could be down to 1.5% in less than 18 month's and a handful of interest drops [ hand full .. maybe 5 .. digits on hand! lol ] could be warranted SINCE 31st July the 3 banks above have lost > 10% / over > 13% / < 10% of their value Banks are the backbone of finance and stability THE MONEY MEN dont like what is being proposed .... one comment of BOE gave a shrouded [ EVEN tic ] view of the October budget THAT WAS NOT SEEMINGLY COMPLEMENTARY???
Getting cleared up? , sorry John there’s me thinking NHS queue is worst in history, rivers and beaches full of sh!t , interest rates and mortgage rate highest in decades, to mention just a few of the issues that all happened under the previous governments watch. The British people had enough of the last lot to the point they were willing to vote for anyone to get them out. Yet you still think you know better than EVERYONE else
thats the point / points you are missing.... Most important point you miss is that most people didnt vote for them ... they didnt so got left with their hard core of ??, their win! ............ it was by default as the rest of population either switched to other parties Reform/ Lib Dems or like about 8 million other missing voters didnt vote at all other points are barrel scratchers ... NHS QUE is result of [ and backed up by numerous " intellects" in various articles as because of 2 main consequences main 1 covid and exasperated by the strikes that when they were in progress had figures that stated how many operations appointments daily were being L O S T actions /picket lines backed up by serving Labour MP's joining them on the lines.......... You really do need to do some research, guess you havent got the time so just join the band wagon maybe? Our beach's are some of the finest in Europe and many parts of the world ... the issue is 1 or 2 water companies dumping sewage into the sea or the intensive battery farms etc into rivers. There was an article published a couple years before Covid maybe 2013 give or take in a freebie paper I read whilst staying on coast near Newcastle [ had a pre 9 so drove up previous day ] It stated something like "in the 60's /70's the UK discharge into the sea was greater than in the present [ circa 2013 ish ] it was to do with teeside [ I think ] pumping sewage out to sea off the coast up there somewhere! In the 70's I used to go fishing off of nights at low tide we used to dig lugs at WSM before fishing off Brean or Clevedon around low tide mark was always a thick 2-3" layer of silty smooth yellow morass it started thinly from high tide mark to low tide .... it was PURE **** untreated ... in 2021 I went to WSM and at low tide walked out to almost low tidal area to the lugworm beds and GOSH what a surprise ... hardly any yellow slimy morass... just a hint! Mortgage rates ..well off the mark with this comment .. decades?? well how many my first mortgage in the 60's was around 7- 8% peaked at 2 later times [ got divorced so actually had 2 mortgages ] one had a high of 15% the other 17% and neither dropped below 8% ............ made redundantant in 1981 and invested half my lump sum in Building Society interest pa was around 10-11% ........... I bet there is quite a few on here and other boards all been through similar! Stating factual >>> bullet points >>>>>>>>>>>> really needs to have a context
Most people even traditionally Tory voters were so cheesed off with the Tories they tactically voted to get rid of them, hence why % voters of most smaller parties increased. NHS Q’s were bad even before covid and NHS was running at near capacity. Covid highlighted a pre existing issue. I said decades yet you quote 70’s & 80’s, that’s almost half a century, still I suppose that’s how far you have to go back to make your point. Yes I was in a similar situation then, but not relevant to my point. As for state of the rivers, try talking to Fergil Sharky, (he’s from your favoured era), about river quality, I’m sure he’d put you right.
I’ll take your word for it, I assume you aren’t suggesting we don’t build new houses, but that we improve building methods.
You see you nearly get to understand your point, and even to a point maybe understand it? ! BUT then you capitulate back to your smoke filled room and cant see the reasons! Trying keep things brief but you wouldnt likely see the truthful bits .. 2019 BORIS DECLARES BACK IN THE BLACK and the uk is going to be able [ now we have had austerity needed to clear the Labour debt and chaos left ] to incease police/ NHS staff ( nurses) build and improve 50 hospitals ( 2 or 3 or more have been sorted like police and nursing numbers ) and along comes C O V I D to put a spanner in the works, no op's' or planned ONES AT ALL! & NO APPOINTMENTS ........... SO FOR CLARITY hospitals have best part of 365 days of missed ops and appointments, as you state "was running NEAR CAPACITY before Covid" SO say for every day 3000 ops missed that need doing following year = 3000 per day as normal plus a share of the 1,000,000 that was missed in covid year blimey thats double cant do that spread over 2 years a share of say 500,000 oooooops doctors and most NHS STAFF STAGGERING STRIKE ACTION SO ...... wont be able to catch up for longer ... so the snowball grows and .gov are not medics so .................... OK easy to use that as an escape route you dont define number of decades because then you can pick a lesser evil to attach to... when in 1990's it all seemingly got better it was because the UK had suddeny had £trns of income it never had before ...oil and gas revenue ... that got wasted and we sold our gold but still needed to "maintain face so borrowed " then of course near bankruptcy.. THE HIGHER RATES ARE NOT BECAUSE OF OF .GOV MISHANDLING it is as has been said due to circumstances that are not normal ...COVID AND WAR/ ENERGY ..... PS see if there is a place to listen to the BOE / OBR/ ETC's COMMENTS ON THE PAST 5 YEARS of the life in UK its ups and downs! WONT be long before someone starts calling for the Rattlesnakes head!
So you are saying it took 9 years, ( COVID 19) of Tory Austerity to so say put them in a position to “push on”, then COVID stopped them, then it was the war in Ukraine or nurses and doctors fault, mmmm sounds like blaming everything and everyone else. It’s also odd you were willing to allow Tories even on your reckoning 9 years grace, yet are now criticising Labours record this time even before they’ve even had 9 weeks!! Not even worth commenting about your excuses in relation to decades since inflation and mortgage rates so high, despite your deflecting tactics as figures don’t lie, plainly 70’s is half a century ago not just decades. I’ve noticed you’ve not commented at all about state of rivers/ water companies being allowed to get away with murder.
ONE HAS TO WONDER when the reports filtering through indicate that Russia is losing over 100 killed troops a day plus injured how long they can continue. Frontline is getting very thin in places and are now offering an enhanced salary with an up front payment to go to the frontline. with the F16's now being distributed over more than 1 air field they are constantly to be kept at 1 minute notice of take off not just to take down enemy missiles / drones but to ensure not trapped on the ground! would guess they are armed for defensive duty as opposed to attack mode of fixed targets? Russia starting to attack the danube ports again ... new harvest but drone fragments are being found over NATO countries! Putin needed a boost to popularity so fell in line with releasing the innocent "political / spying accused" detainee's for a number of their detained elsewhere ... 2 children didnt speak any Russian and thought they were German citizens WERE ACTUALLY BORN in Germany parents were spies ........
Since I started this thread it is clear that Putin will continue to wage his special operations in Ukraine no matter what the rest of the world says and my concern is that on a whim he will do something totally stupid elsewhere. We already know that he is alliance with Iran and also supporting the Houti rebels and Hezbollah in any of their attacks around the Middle East but what will the West do if, and possibly when, he makes a deliberate error of judgement in making a move on let's say Moldova where many Russians are based? The mere thought of Israel under the warmonger Netenyahu scares the pants off me because you can bet your bottom dollar that Putin would go out of his way to join another conflict that would allow him to further up the ante in that area as he is already up to the hilt in Syria. The baddies of the world have no regard for human rights and after I read an article today from an ex- North Korean high level escapee who said the Kim would likely kill his entire population if it meant him staying in control and therefore should be regarded as the most dangerous of all of these idiots. Those crossroads I talked about all that time ago has now developed into a myriad of directional issues that may be beyond redemption unless someone wakes up and smells the cordite killing thousands of innocent people in too many locations before it is too late because one person made a wrong move and the world suffers even worse than at present. Wake up and stop this nonsense or at least make moves towards cessation because nobody can win the next global war.
Ukraine's military says it attacked and destroyed a Russian submarine while it was anchored at a port in the occupied Crimean peninsula. The Rostov-on-Don, a kilo-class attack submarine launched in 2014, sank after it was struck in a missile attack on the port city of Sevastopol on Friday, Ukraine's general staff said in a statement. It was reportedly one of four submarines operated by Russia's Black Sea fleet capable of launching Kalibr cruise missiles. The Russian defence ministry has not commented. Officials in Kyiv said the attack also destroyed four S-400 air defence systems protecting the peninsula, which Russia illegally annexed in 2014. Last week Ukraine's military said Moscow had been forced to withdraw all of its naval assets from the Sea of Azov - a body of water connected to the Black Sea - due to repeated strikes on its vessels. Ukrainian drones targeted a major airfield and oil depots in Russia. The attack targeted the Morozovsk airfield, where guided bombs which have recently wrecked havoc on Ukrainian cities, are stored. Online footage said to be from the base showed powerful explosions and huge fires, after what appears to be several hits on fuel or ammunition depots. Russia said many of the drones used were shot down, but local authorities have declared a state of emergency around the air base. Oil storage facilities were also targeted in the Rostov, Kursk and Belgorod regions. The attacks come after Russia launched more than 600 guided air bombs towards Ukraine in a week Rumour has it the first deliveries of F-16 fighter jets [ 6 ] had arrived in Ukraine. Long promised by Kyiv's Nato allies, President Zelenky views the planes as central to his country's air defence plans.
Ukraine now punching its way into RUSSIA!! https://news.sky.com/story/ukraine-...in-latest-live-updates-sky-news-blog-12541713 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cn7lmd07mxvt https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/...einforcements-ukraine-attack-putin-rcna165732
I shudder at the way Putin get's very upset when Ukraine hits his prized land and then complains that it is unfair for them to respond by attacking Russian territory. Perhaps the addition of new fighter jets has enabled Ukraine to hit them where it hurts and I am all for that as bullies need to be taken round the back of the bike shed and be taught a lesson. The deaths and brutalization from both sides has to stop but I can never see Putin backing down but this is the time his nonsensical attack on Ukraine needs to be addressed by force, fully supported by the West and the USA to show cohesion of effort, because that clearly is the only language Putin understands but it probably will never change his course of action.
