1. Log in now to remove adverts - no adverts at all to registered members!

Off Topic Politics Thread

Discussion in 'Southampton' started by ChilcoSaint, Feb 23, 2016.

  1. Osvaldorama

    Osvaldorama Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 12, 2011
    Messages:
    14,799
    Likes Received:
    14,157
    F6BEBD15-9841-401B-B870-0DA068376B41.png


    8 police officers injured and weapons confiscated by “anti-racism” protestors.

    If this was people with St George’s flags Keir Starmer would be addressing the nation and throwing them all in the gulag.

    Instead they call it “minor antisocial behaviour”.

    The two tier political policing agenda continues
     
    #47081
  2. ......loading......

    ......loading...... 25 undefeated

    Joined:
    Aug 31, 2012
    Messages:
    12,802
    Likes Received:
    13,297
    Nice rant...
     
    #47082
  3. ChilcoSaint

    ChilcoSaint What a disgrace
    Forum Moderator

    Joined:
    Feb 8, 2011
    Messages:
    39,328
    Likes Received:
    39,260
    Funny how it’s time-stamped 23:37 and you posted it at 21:41 <laugh><laugh><laugh>

    Try again
     
    #47083
    Tupac likes this.
  4. ImpSaint

    ImpSaint Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 17, 2011
    Messages:
    8,242
    Likes Received:
    2,081
    I'm not 100% oon your use of language really but what you are saying on this issue doesn;t go far enough IMO. This is not just an example of 2 tier policing. This scandal exposed not just the police but Rotherham council on this issue as they also backed off and compounded by the Labour party when Sarah Champion was sacked for saying so when she was the Shadow equalities minister when she said (quite honestly) "Britain has a problem with British Pakistani men raping white girls" and this was well after it was exposed that it wasn't just Rotherham that had "ingored" the problem. Other grooming gangs had already at this point been exposed in many other towns and cities.

    This stuff is fuelled from the top, not just from the police. Policemen and women on theiir own do not decide the tactics that will be used. That is decided upon by the top police on advice from the policy makers above them!
     
    #47084
    It'sOnlyAGame and Osvaldorama like this.
  5. ImpSaint

    ImpSaint Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 17, 2011
    Messages:
    8,242
    Likes Received:
    2,081
    But true. the whole chatterati should take a look at itself and stop pointing at those that don't nod their heads at them. They are all about dividing people. They don;t care about cohesion. They care only about aligning everything and everyone to their own simple agendas.
     
    #47085
    Osvaldorama likes this.
  6. Osvaldorama

    Osvaldorama Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 12, 2011
    Messages:
    14,799
    Likes Received:
    14,157
    Just want to be clear - that wasn’t my language. That was directly from the victim.

    I also wasn’t posting that to tar everyone with the same brush.

    I posted it because I think it’s important to give some context to those who call everyone far-right gammons and laughing off the anger of half the country
     
    #47086
  7. Osvaldorama

    Osvaldorama Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 12, 2011
    Messages:
    14,799
    Likes Received:
    14,157
    Im in Scandinavia so I’m 2 hours ahead
     
    #47087
  8. ImpSaint

    ImpSaint Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 17, 2011
    Messages:
    8,242
    Likes Received:
    2,081
    People who call anyone who disagrees with them or votes a different way "Gammon" of any other number of silly names, show their true colours each time they say it. They may not be smashing stuff up or doing criminal activities but they are bigots....of course the right kind of bigots but still! They love sterotyping while complaining about stereotyping.

    I generalise and might call someone lefty or leftist or remainers (often tongue in cheek as a poke the bear) but most of the people who use these terms sit fully behind their opinon and seem to think everybody that has opposing view in anny way is a nasty piece of work. And while they chide Musk and others for their "words and language" are quick to somehow give themselves a free pass when it comes to their own "words and language."
     
    #47088
  9. ......loading......

    ......loading...... 25 undefeated

    Joined:
    Aug 31, 2012
    Messages:
    12,802
    Likes Received:
    13,297
    Everything you have said, and I mean everything, is tilted towards a left vs right dynamic with zero attempt to find middle ground or to understand with sensitivity what people here are saying. Again and again the people here have called these rioters extremists and not representative of British views, yet you make wild statements about us thinking there are millions of them, and suggesting there really is some culture war being fought by anyone but social media losers...

    Mate, you are a hypocrite. How about you stop sensationalising life and realise that most people do live in the comfortable middle. Even we lefties on here see nuance. There is plenty of healthy discussion about culture and immigration - until one of a small number of people comes on and starts using offensive language and childlike insults. Sometimes that is Jabbo. Normally it is someone else.

    But grow up and start living how you preach.
     
    #47089
  10. San Tejón

    San Tejón Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 6, 2014
    Messages:
    16,162
    Likes Received:
    21,324
    Robert Jenrick thinks anyone shouting Allahu Akbar (meaning God is greater or God is the best), should be arrested.
    Should people who say the same in English, French, Italian or any other language be arrested too, or should it just apply to Muslims?
    Yet more Tory racism.
     
    #47090

  11. ChilcoSaint

    ChilcoSaint What a disgrace
    Forum Moderator

    Joined:
    Feb 8, 2011
    Messages:
    39,328
    Likes Received:
    39,260
    I’m just taking the piss out of the thick fascist idiots who believe the **** that Waxy-Lemon and Human Trafficker Boy tell them. Sorry if that’s stereotyping all thick fascist idiots.
     
    #47091
    ImpSaint and thereisonlyoneno7 like this.
  12. Tupac

    Tupac Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 15, 2014
    Messages:
    274
    Likes Received:
    624
    I hope the Finnish people aren’t showing you any hostility, as a foreigner in their country.
     
    #47092
  13. ......loading......

    ......loading...... 25 undefeated

    Joined:
    Aug 31, 2012
    Messages:
    12,802
    Likes Received:
    13,297
    Which part of Scandinavia is two hours ahead???
     
    #47093
  14. ......loading......

    ......loading...... 25 undefeated

    Joined:
    Aug 31, 2012
    Messages:
    12,802
    Likes Received:
    13,297
    I just realised Tupac answered this.
     
    #47094
  15. Che’s Godlike Thighs

    Che’s Godlike Thighs Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 28, 2012
    Messages:
    14,310
    Likes Received:
    23,792
    There's a very large number of white British men who go to South East Asia in order to have sex with underage children. Do you think those countries should ban British people from going on holiday there?
     
    #47095
  16. Le Tissier's Laces

    Le Tissier's Laces Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 11, 2011
    Messages:
    43,019
    Likes Received:
    48,941
    From my bro in Brighton:

    love Brighton. the small group of Nazis who turned up have been accompanied back to the station by police and a gay brass band playing 80’s pop.
     
    #47096
  17. ImpSaint

    ImpSaint Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 17, 2011
    Messages:
    8,242
    Likes Received:
    2,081
    It is not tilted as a left/right dynamic. It is tilted against those that control the narrative, want to continue to control the narrative and want to decide what is left and right. It is they who make no attempt to find a centre ground. They set the terms of debate and they decide by the day who is on the left and right dependent on what they decide is "right or wrong."

    I think you;ll find that I am far from a "righty" and I would suggest I am comfortably in the middle too. I bear no ill to anyone and want to see criminals prosecuted not cherry picking based on some identarian nonsense. People think differently to each other and that is not a crime unless they cross the line with their actions. There is far too much finger pointing from the supposedly left wing at political opponents whether they be politicians or influencers with seemingly no reflection on their fellow "left wingers" which to me shows they aren't really a believer in what they are saying but merely utilising an opportunity to politik instead.

    And sorry, the way words are bandied about on here and other places does lead to an impression that certain people think the country is over-run by racist nut-jobs.

    This will only get worse once the organised "anti-facists" start bussing their lot in. As stated earlier in this thread. These thugs were outweighed by opposition protestors and the vast majority of those will be normal local people opposing the thugs not Antifa types. These normal people will be a mix of leavers and remainers, left wing and right wing, Tory and Labour (or other) voters. A mix of normal folks and they are representative of Britain!

    Once the Antifa types start mobilising it will turn into war on the streets if the police and government can't get a handle on this and quick. There are plenty of "left wing" thugs rearing for a ruck and they are just as bad.

    People need to wake up and realise that the UK is not some cesspit hotbed of racists. The numbers in these riots tend to give a clue when we are talking about "50 people" or couple of hundred max in some cases! Outnumbered by locals even when the majority of locals will be staying indoors out of the way. This is a tiny minority that needs clamping down on and not presented as some massive problem representative of a much larger quantity of people.

    This country is not the bad country that many want to paint it as. It has its problems, mainly to do with money as it always is but on the racism front it is a small minority that needs locking up the minute they cross that line.
     
    #47097
    Last edited: Aug 7, 2024
  18. ImpSaint

    ImpSaint Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 17, 2011
    Messages:
    8,242
    Likes Received:
    2,081
    And I do live how I preach ;) I live contentedly on the breadline in a council house with my mixed race family in harmony. I don't rail against people. I rail against authorities that do not care about real life at all because all they care about is controlling an invisible right or wrong narrative in the media.
     
    #47098
  19. Le Tissier's Laces

    Le Tissier's Laces Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 11, 2011
    Messages:
    43,019
    Likes Received:
    48,941
    This is true, tbf.
     
    #47099
  20. ImpSaint

    ImpSaint Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 17, 2011
    Messages:
    8,242
    Likes Received:
    2,081
    Gammon is used across the internet whenever someone discloses they didn't vote or intend not to vote the "correct" way! It isn't reserved for "thick fascist idiots" unfortunately. Wouldn;t be too much of a problem if people were only using to brand the select few but it is used to paint any opponent.

    Darlings of the left are instantly branded right wing the minute they diverge (Russell Brand?)

    Nasty piece of works like Alistair Campbell are forgiven and given mass exposure because "they are on message."

    "Tory Scum" become left wing icons when "they are on message" (Rory Stewart.)

    We live in an age where memory only counts when necessary and if you are on message today you are great, off message tomorrow you are suddenly right wing (catch all term now for not being on message.) It is all now meaningless.
     
    #47100
    Last edited: Aug 7, 2024

Share This Page