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The pre-season thread - 2024/25

Discussion in 'Southampton' started by - Doing The Lambert Walk, Jun 27, 2024.

  1. st_brendy

    st_brendy Well-Known Member
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    I suspect that is a big reason why Leeds went down the route last season of loaning out loads of players, rather than selling them. If they had sold them, they would have likely realised losses on many of them. In cash-terms that wasn't ideal, because they would have raised far more cash from transfer fees than loan fees. But whilst PSR continues to be profit-focused rather than cash-focused, it's understandable what they choose to do. (Even if, in the long run, it's arguably not the right thing to do - because those original transfer fees paid will ultimately become fully deducted either way, it's just when it happens.)

    PS. In your example, our loss for Onuachu would be less than £13m because we will have already amortised some of the original fee. But I do agree with your overall point.
     
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  2. Le Tissier's Laces

    Le Tissier's Laces Well-Known Member

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    Can we all just agree that FFP is not fit for purpose.
     
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    F F P is not F F P?
     
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  4. ChilcoSaint

    ChilcoSaint What a disgrace
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    F F P is not currently F F P, but we need to have a new version of F F P to make it F F P. Unless we do, football is F B B.
     
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  5. SaintsFan86

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    I don't know where £20Million for Onuachu comes from I thought it was €18Million at the time which is about £15Million sterling.
    So I'd suggest we've probably amortised £7.5Million.

    We would have to sell for 7.5 to make a profit but I could be talking rubbish.
     
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  6. Saints Fan4Life

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  7. shoot_spiderman

    shoot_spiderman Power to the People

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    The situation is far graver than I realised …

    … your post doesn’t include any corny jokes :eek:

    Are you Ok L&O?
     
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  8. Lemons and Oranges

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    Occasionally, I resort to 'real world' opinions, some of which are based on reasoned arguments. Then I realise that nothing I say will make any difference to anyone else (unless you count the time I told a man in a black and white hooped shirt, a mask, and a bag marked 'Swag', where I keep my front door key), so I may as well revert to poor attempts at humour. I'll stop now, as I'm getting a Haddock.
     
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  9. saintlyhero

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    Think it’s hyperbole to suggest the PL is a closed shop after one season of promoted sides making a swift return.
    There are about 6 or 7 sides a duff management appointment away from relegation
     
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  10. thereisonlyoneno7

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    Or just a bad year. The year Bompey went down was unfortunate. We were crap too in our year, but previous to that we were not too close to it
     
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  11. saintlyhero

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    Yep, In our two relegation seasons from the PL we had three different managers

    Sturrock/Wigley/Redknapp
    Hassenhuttl/Jones/Selles

    it’s really difficult for any team to cope with that kind of disruption and if you’re already a bottom half squad then it’s likely curtains.

    I don’t know if any teams might be close to a melt down of those scales, but I wouldn’t rule it out
     
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  12. Libby

    Libby Derby County, we're coming for you

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    Brentford will go down this year imo
     
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  13. thereisonlyoneno7

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    I feel Bompey. Dunno why, just do.
     
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  14. Libby

    Libby Derby County, we're coming for you

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    I think they'll be okay. Though I should qualify that with the fact I don't pay any attention to transfer windows.
     
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    I honestly think the three who came up will be battling with Everton. Everyone else should be fine. I saw Fulham a couple of times last year and, like Palace, I was impressed enough to think man for man they were better than us all over the park.
     
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  16. Che’s Godlike Thighs

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    Reckon Brighton might struggle.
     
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  17. Le Tissier's Laces

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    Nah. Think the the kid they have managing them is good. As is Bompey’s manager. Brentford have firepower if they keep Toney.
     
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  18. Ronnie Hotdog (MLsfc)

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    I'd argue we had 3 managers in those years because we were dogsh*t. Rather than us struggling because of the disruption of going through 3 managers.
     
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    We were dogshit but having three managers was like walking the dogshit in onto the rug.
     
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    I genuinely think if SR had gone for a boring experienced manager we could have stayed up. Just.

    edit: instead of jones. He was the worst. Just terrible.
     
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