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WAR! What is it good for?

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  1. Star of David Bardsley

    Star of David Bardsley 2023 Funniest Poster

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    Slightly glosses over his role in taking those hostages. No, far from all recovered hence this war going on and your social media degree in Middle East Studies now approaching its first birthday.
     
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  2. PINKIE

    PINKIE Wurzel Gummidge

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    Lol, Brunel has been here since before you bro.

    He's long term part of the furniture material.
     
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  3. brb

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    I remember a SKY News interview with Mahmoud Zahar in 2021, these are his words...

    Asked if the State of Israel has the right to exist, he paused then said: "No. Why? You are coming from America and you take my house, you came from Britain and you took my brother's house, you took this. This is a settlement.

    "You are not a citizen. We are the owner of this area - Arabic area. This is well known as an Islamic area."

    As we left him, he showed me the damage to his neighbour's house from Israeli airstrikes.

    "One last question," I asked. "How would you define peace?"

    "Peace means justice. No peace without justice," he said.
    The prospects of long-term peace elusive as ever.

    https://news.sky.com/story/hamas-co...ael-without-justice-for-palestinians-12315339
     
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  4. Star of David Bardsley

    Star of David Bardsley 2023 Funniest Poster

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    Should have asked the silly **** about Judea.
     
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  5. Spurlock

    Spurlock Homeboy Forum Moderator

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    ^^^

    please log in to view this image
     
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  6. BrunelGunner

    BrunelGunner Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    I read what you said perfectly fine.

    I'm asking you - please explain what is unacceptable about those terms? Why would that be unacceptable to Israel to accept? From a basic humanitarian perspective.
     
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  7. FosseFilberto

    FosseFilberto Pizzeria Superiore and some ... Forum Moderator

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    Not arguing bro ... just saying that the families with members still being held will now be distraught with worry about repercussions / retaliation... not that they weren't worried before, of course... but I don't think this latest incident will improve their survival hopes ...
     
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  8. FosseFilberto

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    Not at all - but if it was any of mine being held I know what I'd prefer as a strategy for getting them out ... and it ain't an invitation to make them pay for the demise of the chief negotiator ...
     
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  9. Libby

    Libby Derby County, we're coming for you

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    Brunel ain't a sock mate. Always posts on the Saints board around our games.
     
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  10. brb

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    Think I gave up on the hostages long ago, although it was remarkable how well some of the most recent freed captives looked, considering their length of time as a hostage (which is concerning from another angle). I said from the beginning Nety does not care about the hostages, something I said to CK (I believe). If they were my family I would always live in hope that they would be freed one day, of course I would. However, they are not my family and I see Hamas as terrorists, terrorists that use their own civilians (Palestinians) as a shield, so any dead Hamas leader is fine by me, much as anyone taking Nety out for the state of all this is fine by me, because for me, whatever the eventual outcome of all this, I wouldn't want any of these fookers from either side left in charge...then you have the humans from both sides who have been stuck in the middle of all this, who deserve peace, but I trust neither side to deliver it and so the cycle will continue long after I'm gone.
     
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  11. brb

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    Yeah cheers mate.
     
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  12. Solid Air 2

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    you have to be pretty stupid to believe that Israel is going to retire from Gaza and let Hamas bulld up their forces again after all this .
     
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  13. FosseFilberto

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    You have to be even stupider to think that whatever grows to replace 'Hamas' (an ideology) won't be more formidable, more numerous and with even more funding from Iran etc ...

    Meanwhile - Israel will be under ever more mounting International pressure to withdraw, not only from Gaza, but from all illegally occupied (under International Law) territories in the area ... and to come to the table for a two state solution ...
     
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  14. Solid Air 2

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    my reply to Brunel was pointing out that Israel will not accept a ceasefire which says they cannot have military forces in Gaza and your point is why .
    International pressure makes no difference to Israel unless it includes USA .
     
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  15. Welshie

    Welshie Chavcunt fanboy dickhead

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    2 hits in as many days for Israel

    that'll be why Netty flew back, to approve strikes into Iran and Beirut.
     
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  16. FosseFilberto

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    ... and all 'escalated' by the killing of 12 innocent arab children in a country where Israel has no legal presence or right... who'd have thought it?

    ... almost like the 'hits' might already have been planned in detail.. and all that was required was some rationale / trigger for the timing ... perhaps something that might dilute any otherwise potential condemnation from around the globe (excluding the USA and its puppets) for state orchestrated assassinations?

    Anyways - that'll certainly learn Hezbollah to take more care in firing it's rockets, I guess - just a miracle they haven't hit anbody other than Israeli military / strategic targets before ...

    ...and the ****ers still continue to deny it was them what fired into Golan ... worra bunch of ****s eh?
     
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  17. PINKIE

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    This all looks like Netanyahu's ploy to bring us to the brink of all out war imo.

    The West has enabled him, and now he's pushing Iran and the US closer and closer to a direct war

    I swear that's his end game. And he'll let everybody else die for his warped vision.
     
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  18. FosseFilberto

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    Might just have to set up a Conspiracy Theory WhatsApp group <laugh>

    Perhaps call it 'Spirit of Aber' <whistle>
     
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  19. BrunelGunner

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    Who said anything about building up their forces? All I mentioned was reconstruction of the region e.g. all the homes, businesses, buildings etc that have been utterly demolished get rebuilt, that those who have been forcibly displaced are allowed back, that basic humanitarian aid is allowed and that hostages and prisoners are given back. I haven't said anything about 'Hamas forces'. There are also other factions that exist outside of Hamas, by the way.

    There's nothing unreasonable about any of this and the only reason why it won't happen is because Israel doesn't want it to. If these terms are seen as 'unacceptable to Israel', then that tells you all it needs to about them.

    Israel's resources vastly exceeds anything Hamas could ever do, too. So even if Hamas were to 'build up their forces', Israel have more than enough artillery and tech to keep them at bay. So I don't see this as a valid reason.
     
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  20. Welshie

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    or

    Hezbollah aimed badly and hit a football pitch.
     
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