WAR! What is it good for?

i never said misfire as that means an unplanned launch and there is no evidence for that i assume it was aimed at israel settlements and missed

 

...mis-launched then

 

Correct.

Neither is Lebanon.

They are both part of the Iranian Empire, and have been for years.

Yemen is next.

 

There aren't many Israeli towns on the Golan Peninsula at all. Very sparsely populated. It's significance is largely military bases and training, which is probably what Hezbollah were aiming for but missed.

Majdal Shams is a cool place. You can see Damascus from there on a clear day.

 

The only thing belonging to Syria in the Golan are the thousands of mines they left behind when they pissed their pants and ran away in 1967.

(Another reason why the region is sparesly populated, it's too dangerous)..

 

Only that's not true - Syria became an independent country in 1945 on signing the UN charter ...

 

Yeah but it’s now a ****hole run by warlords so **** ‘em. Lebanon is effectively two countries now too.

 

Thing I don't get is this ...

Why has Netanyahu had to cut short his US tour and rush back to an emergency meeting of the Israeli war cabinet ...

If the missile that hit the Druze enclave was from Hezbollah, intended or not, how does that escalate anything ?...

No Isreali's were injured, as far as I know, it's not part of Israel, and it's not like Hezbollah aren't firing missile actually into Israel itself on a daily basis ...

 

Pretty big can of worms if you’re saying it and the kids killed aren’t Israeli.

 

Not sure what you're getting at ... I'm not undervaluing the needless loss of innocent lives - which, consistently, has been my single biggest issue with IDF / Israeli government actions in Gaza ...

... but if the missile had overshot Israel and landed in, say, Yemen, killing the same number of civilians, I doubt Netanyahu would have been rushing back to Israel to discuss an 'appropriate response'...

As I said, Hezbollah has been firing missiles at Israel / Israeli targets since the conflict began - why does this particular rocket / missile now 'escalate' things?

What's changed other than further unnecessary civilian lives (again the majority being kids) being lost?

 

not sure you're getting the point of this post .

 

The Golan Heights will never again not be part of Israel, rightly or wrongly.

Like literally zero chance of that area ever coming out of Israeli control.

 

that would be one hell of an "overshot"

 

Nor mine.

 

Just the 1000 miles or so

 

I don't mean the following to come across as insulting, Fosse. We've traded blows on this forum and perhaps sometimes it has bordered on getting personal.

Your posts over the past few days have shifted my opinion of you.

You write from a place of sheer lack of awareness of the facts on the ground. It is as simple as that.

Brief history lesson on Syria:

Syria ceased being a democracy after a series of military coups in 1963,1966 and 1970 led by the Alawite dominated Ba'ath Party, which ushered in a dictatorship. This was due to Syria moving away from Egypt's sphere of influence and closer to Iraq's.

The Alawite elite are a minority in a country largely populated by Sunni and Druze (the latter being closer to the Shi'ite tradition). In order to solidify his hold on power, Hafez al-Assad instigated sweeping purges, with thousands of political opponents either disappearing without trace or being sent into exile. The man was a monster in a suit and tie.

But whereas Hafez' brutality was balanced out by a strong economic prowess and charismatic personality, his son Basshar only inherited the brutality part.

Syria suffered terribly after the economic crash in 2007, going from that straight into the worst famine in its history. Basshar promised economic and political reform to improve the country, but delivered neither. This triggered the civil war in 2011.

Close to half a million have been killed since, 300,000 of them civilians. Basshar was and still is totally reliant on Iranian weaponry, money and training to keep his grip on power. So he is now a puppet dictator in a failed state.

The picture below shows what Syria is today: a chaotic, lawless place split into five regions each with different ruling bodies. The red section is nominally still under Basshar's dictatorship.

Anyone who thinks it would be better for world peace to give the Golan back to Basshar al-Assad needs to give their head a wobble. He makes Netanyahu look like Gandhi.

 

Again, total lack of awareness.

Druze in mainland Israel are full Israeli citizens with voting rights and full representation. There are currently 2 MKs and 5 members of the judiciary who are Druze. The Druze serve in the IDF and until 2016 had their own division, the Herev Brigade. The IDF's most senior officer killed on Oct 7th was a Druze colonel called Salman Habaka.

After Israel formally annexed the Golan, the Druze there were given the choice between receiving full citizenship, or a lower status called 'permanent resident', if they preferred not to recognise Israeli sovereignty.

Whereas historically it was seen as a major stigma for a Golan Druze to accept citizenship, the number of applicants has risen exponentially since the start of the civil war in Syrian (see above), so that thousands of residents of Majdal Shams are now full citizens of Israel.

Netanyahu flying back is therefore to show solidarity to citizens he was elected to represent, who are part of an ethnic minority who have contributed enormously to Israel since it's foundation.

The emergency meeting would only be surprising to someone with a near total lack of awareness of the facts.

 

I’m going to do a dance

anyone want to guess what it’s for?

 

Manor Solomon killed in action?