Maybe lol. Had a few drinks tonight. On train home right now. Anyway i heard hes got a place to stay at your place for rehab I will let sir keir know
I’m going to go back to it but you guys may or may not have missed a white serving soldier has been stabbed in uniform. You might have seen it briefly mentioned somewhere. Instead we have people feeling sorry for a couple of violent woman beating Asians, who are grabbing the headlines. It’s wrong. On every level.
No brown people allowed in Cornwall so he'll have to go and live in brb's front garden with the rest of them.
wtf is this ****? Where was this crowd and guy with his megaphone when young teenage girls in Rochdale were being trafficked and raped by Asian men. **** them and burn Rochdale to the ground. **** hole.
Some more footage has appeared of that incident at Manchester airport The family of the man booted in the head have appealed for 'calm in all communities' "They wanted me to issue an appeal for calm among all sorts of different communities in Rochdale. "We've had a history of unfortunate division in our town and we do not want to go back to those days." He said the family were "acutely aware" there were "extremists of all sides who are keen to hijack this incident for their own ends". Last night, solicitor Akhmed Yakoob, who is representing Muhammad Fahir Amaaz who he said was the man who had been kicked, said his condition had worsened on Wednesday night, and a CT scan on Thursday had "revealed there is a cyst on his brain". https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/videos/cn05p53qw9zo
I think it's disgusting the contrasts of the media attention, but hey ho unlike people already judging the coppers without the full story, I'll wait until the trial before screaming accusations and for things that may not have been revealed at this moment in time, I'll trust our democratic process to not lie to me... His name is Anthony Esan, 24 years of age, was arrested at Mooring Road in Rochester. Mooring Road is off one of the main routes that can either be reached via the A2 and M2 known as City Way. There's CCTV that shows he rode to the scene of the crime on his moped and presumably home again. The suggestions at this moment in time is he is mentally ill, and considering some of the responses he gave to Medway magistrates court on being sent down until his next appearance, I'd say yes, the lad has issues. Even my lad said he's a nutter, and didn't suspect anything more when I spoke to him. He attacked a high ranking uniformed officer, I can only assume the officer was on his way home to his family a short walk away from the barracks. I'm not convinced it's a 'random' attack, as this is a locally known military area. BUT, I'll wait until the trial. I hasten to add he was arrested pretty quickly at Mooring Road, which is about 10+ min ride from the location of the crime. Seemed quite a big lad, reports he had about five knives on him, one similar to a machete, reports suggest the soldier was stabbed 12 times, and is now in a critical condition in hospital. I know the area pretty well, a route I've drove many a time in my life and even walked in my younger years as it's an easy but fair walk between Gillingham and Chatham - In the days when we had shops, pubs and cinemas, oh and night clubs around our town centres. That specific area is known as Brompton, also the original name of GFC (New Brompton FC) short bit of trivia there for you. Anyway, knowing the area well, it's all a bit too close to home, so becomes more of a sensitive topic, yet Rochdale or something...
Sorrry I missed this. I totally understand it hitting harder than usual when it’s close to home. I notice the police officer has now been charged. I’ve not heard anything about the lads being charged for assaulting police officers. This is usually a go direct to jail charge for breaking a police officers nose. Something tells me that won’t be happening with this case. These people saying the police need to rule by the law and not the boot, don’t realise the trouble they’re causing because they’ve never lived that life. Every time they go on like that it weakens the police and emboldens criminals. I can remember when you heard the police were looking for someone who had belted an officer, you knew their fate, they’d be belted about when they were caught. Nobody would dare say anything about police justice and everyone thought twice about doing the same thing. The do-gooders are trying to change that and are making society worse. Nice one.
Disagree saf There is a real issue of violence right across society. Kids are more violent in primary schools, from reception in some instances. In my school the youngest we had was 7 but since covid we've had a lot of 5 and 6 year old sent to us. There's the issue of stabbings, domestic violence, gay bashing, football violence on the rise etc. The old bill have been shown to be riddled with some very scummy elements. The geezer who race d and murdered Sarah Everard, the old bill refusing to search for those sisters and it was their mates that found their bodies, there were the old bill that took selfies with their bodies, the old bill that have been involved in horrific WhatsApp groups laughing at rape victims etc. then there are the case of old bill being found having coerced vulnerable women into relationships, and stealing from the dead. The old bill need to be trustworthy and as an organisation they're not. Allowing old bill to kick and stamp on a man's head when he is laying on the ground after being tasered because he wanted revenge only makes it more likely that the old bill (probably non abusive ones) get attacked in future IMHO. The geezer who broke the copper's nose deserved to be nicked and jailed. But that is very unlikely to happen now because of that officer's behaviour. People used to say it was only one or two bad apples in the police force but to lots of us that looks like very wishful thinking. Just my opinion obviously
It’s a job that’s going to attract bad people naturally like all positions of authority. A tiny percentage of the overall profession but still it’s always been the case and likely always will be. I don’t think you can categorise this as being in the same league as a Sarah Everhard. In a tense situation we don’t know the full detail of, in a split second, the bloke has probably done the wrong thing. It’s not like he’s completely lost it and beaten the bloke to death with a dozen blows. It’s now being hijacked by disingenuous people for their own gain.
Most of us know that intimate relationships are a big thing in the police force, I once read that it was the profession with the highest number of affairs between work colleagues. Just wondering if the lass with the busted nose and the booter were an item,that is part of why he lost it?
I can't help thinking that kicking a man in the face and then stamping on his head while he is on the floor is the act of a complete **** tbh. A mate killed someone with one punch ... he was on his own and they guy that died was with mates. They had a row about something and my mate hit him once in the face and ran. The guy fell and banged his head. He was convicted of manslaughter. I tell this story to the kids I work with as they can be so unbelievably violent with no thought of the consequences. An officer should be very aware that kicking and stamping on a person's head is potentially lethal. He is trained and as a result has to be held to a high standard.
Agree and the second kick is the issue for me. One is understandable in the circumstances I think even taking all that into account. I just can’t have all the hullabaloo since. Self-important knobheads organising protests and demanding sackings and prosecutions. Let the authorities deal with it and if the bloke ought to be sacked, jailed or whatever then fine.
The thing that got me is people have jumped in without knowing the full story of the Manchester thing, protestors and such I mean. Could you imagine if I did that with that soldier - but I will wait until the trial, but let me say this... When the attacker rode down City way, all he had to do (in my head) was turn left at the junction, and he would have been in Rochester High St a damn sight quicker than anywhere else populated, he could randomly of picked from any amount of people who to attack. But no he rode further, to a quiet little surburb and picked a soldier in uniform, across from his barracks, hmmm... Now if the attacker did not know the soldier, this will take a hell of a lot of explaining regardless of how much of a nutcase he is - maybe he feared being caught or stop, always a possibility, but...I'm prepared to wait, because I don't know there could be a perfectly reasonable or even unreasonable explaination the attacker did it the way he did in his head. We all accept the copper in the Manchester incident should lose his job, but that takes a process of following all the facts, exactly the same as the soldier, and why the hell the media are entertaining that lawyer is beyond me and why this receives more coverage than the events of Gillingham, which were 10 years since the killing of Lee Rigby is completely mind numbing. Maybe the media want to stir up hatred, well they are making a pretty damn good job of it.
Lots of interesting points raised above ... my tuppence for what it's worth ... The copper lost control and rightly faces an enquiry and disciplinary repercussions - BUT - if this is the first time he's lost it like that, I hope it doesn't mean he loses his job; if, when it all comes out, there are extenuating circumstances for that loss of control - if this is not the first time he's lost it like that, then policing is obviously not the right job for him and he should be excluded ... The lawyer involved is an absolute **** stain of a human being IMO - one of those ****s that thinks he is really clever when he's just a transparent gobshite - immotive and wholly inappropriate words and phrases like 'attempted assassination' do nothing more than inflame an already volatile situation. He's also played the race / religion card way too early and without any justification (at this stage). Then there is the cyst on the brain of the lad that was kicked - now if that's been caused by the kick it should be taken into account in the full independent enquiry - if it turns out that it is pre- existing then that lawyer should be sanctioned for misleading the public, prejudicing any enquiry and verging on attempting to pervert the course of justice... This was not an isolated case of random 'police brutality' - the family had been involved in an incident / fracas, serious enough for the police to be called and had then physically resisted being arrested / questioned. Football hooligans would have got the same treatment in similar circumstances, excepting that one officer's excessive actions - so any link to race / religion is tenuous at best and not the objective / 'end game' that the lawyer is attempting to portray. Those demonstrating outside police stations with placards with 'no justice no peace' need to readily accept that the 'justice' element needs to include the family answering for any crime that prompted the incident in the first place.... the police officer's actions are a secondary consequence to all of that... Finally, the timing of the lawyer's stupid remarks coinciding with what happened to the uniformed British serviceman at the hands of a deranged madman whose motives are still to be established, but for whom religious/ racial motivation will be up there as one of the prime possible causes being looked at, could not be worse in terms of general public reaction - and if the twat needed a proper definition of 'attempted assassination' it's staring him coldly in the face... Rant over
That’s fine, mate. Your opinion is well respected on here and I certainly value any input you have. It does seem like you have a bee in your bonnet about the police and that’s perfectly understandable given you’re in London and the incidents with the police that have been happening down there lately. I don’t think you should be lumping in them issues with this one. If the kid isn’t jailed for breaking the coppers nose and flooring two others then this country is more ****ed than I thought. They’re completely separate issues. The lad broke a coppers nose and him and his mate floored two others before the copper even thought about putting the boot in. They simply have to go to jail and if they don’t, it won’t be because of the officer booting them in the head, it will be because of their race/religion and to stop it kicking off on the streets with that community. You might think that’s harsh/wrong, but after seeing this all before with the grooming gangs up here, I can assure you there’s a lot of truth to it. The authorities back down for fear of the backlash.
From what I read, it appears the Manchester lads mum was abused on an airplane flight into the UK, I believe the word 'paki' was used, but people could just be making shhite up, but I'll assume it was used for the commotion that followed next. The lads rightly were waiting for their mum at arrivals, and she pointed out who abused her, what happened next was probably understandable if you've abused their mum...trouble was it all got out of control, maybe due to poor police handling, but we will have to wait and see. Nothing justifies assulting coppers though, again I'll give benefit of doubt and say maybe it was an elbow to the nose accidently, we will just have to wait and see and so will them fooking protestors!
The only thing I know about the soldier and how it played out is by reading your posts. There’s definitely agendas being played out in the media here. I suspect they’re being directed by the authorities, possibly even the government.
