Woman's football is gaining traction at a fantastic rate and is lightyears ahead of even just 5 years ago and long may it continue. But standard wise having the England woman's manager take over the men's team is like us appointing a national league manager to become the England boss. I think woman coaches and managers should definitely be given a chance in the men's game and in time they will im sure. But they need to earn the right to such a high profile position by proving themslfs in the men's game first. Before anyone jumps on me, my Mrs is an ex womens pro who's played at the very top and for England. I love the women's game and the growth is fantastic. But the men's game and the women's game are just 2 very different games.
It's not about 'littlr women concept' nor trying to make daft comparisons between men's & ladies football (it's almost like a different sport). Don't you think Serena should maybe first prove herself by coaching a men's team at PL or FL level first, before being considered for arguably the most challenging, prestigious important role in English football? Maybe it would be a start for a woman to coach a man's team in the PL or FL. Surely that would be a more sensible starting point for a woman to prove it can be done. Until then it's just plain stupid to talk about her as a possible replacement for Southgate.
You are a daft twat. Why do you think coaching a women’s team, with the most professional set up compared to most other countries, means they are qualified to coach the men’s steam. Presumably the manager of any under 15s boys team who would beat them is even better qualified?
I'm saying no less qualified than Carsley, not that either should be a shoe in. But don't let that stop you getting triggered into another rant.
How is she as qualified as Carsley? He played a lot more professional games than her at a higher level and has won something with the young ones who will be stepping up to play for the men’s team. All irrelevant as only people living in a deluded alternative universe think she would be considered.
There’s plenty of mens managers who have no experience of playing at the top level - that’s irrelevant. But I agree with Howden that anyone who coaches England men should have a background in coaching the mens game - purely because groups of men and women are different to prepare both physically and mentally. I’m looking forward to more women being in that bracket because hopefully it’ll mean there’s a better pool to pick from. Carsley I’d only be interested in because he has experience of doing well with the England youth teams. Otherwise his managerial record is underwhelming, but so was Southgate’s. We have reached a point where the club and international game are so different that it’s difficult to pick who’s a good candidate. But throughout all of this discussion, the quality of the women’s game is completely irrelevant.
fair comment. Yes she should prove herself in the prem league first. can you remind me of carsleys Stella prem mgmt career please. if you can promote one without experience why not the other??
Ideally there'd be an English manager with a track record at the top level of club football, but there isn't. And if there was would someone with that pedigree be tempted by the national side?
This is the point. Why is one seen as a credible candidate and not the other when neither have experience at senior men's level?
I think it’s because Carsley has successfully worked with many of the players that are now in the mens squad to be fair.
mate I totally agree. Neither are the right choice. But to promote one & dismiss another for the same issue is bonkers. plenty of managers who didn’t play had great mgmt careers
I think it’s interesting that English seems to have become a requirement again after Capello. I’m not really that fussed. But no, I think international football has become second tier in that regard
Well, if the World Champions get slugged by under 15s and Arsenal’s do as well only a complete and utter fruit loop would think they would not lose to men. Which explains your nonsense. What proof do you have they wouldn’t?
