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City v Fenerbahçe

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  1. petersaxton

    petersaxton Well-Known Member

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    Tim already knows that Pandur was at fault
    he's not stupid
     
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  2. bradymk2

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    Will he not have our keeper come out anymore?
     
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  3. TIGERSCAVE

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    Thats exactly what im saying.... he's like a salmon...
     
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  4. Mckechnie Orange

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    Jacob got out muscled and put off balance as he was about to jump. Macca just left it seemingly thinking Jacob had it covered though.
     
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  5. petersaxton

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    not if he wants to avoid conceding goals
    the club are making some strange decisions though
    like getting rid of our best two goalkeepers
    I would have recommended getting in goalkeepers who we want before letting others go
     
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  6. petersaxton

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    I saw him jump
    what match were you looking at?
     
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  7. bradymk2

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    But thats how he plays
    Same as how rosie had his play with the keeper
     
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  8. petersaxton

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    two defenders getting in the way of each other can cause problems
    so many of our players are short
    or at least look short
     
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  9. Mckechnie Orange

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    Maccas not short. Jacob isn't that short for a fullback either, but he's too easily out muscled for me.
     
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  10. petersaxton

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    what is the advantage of having a goalkeeper playing as another defender
    versus
    the risk of leaving the goal unattended?

    NB I'm not saying you should never pass to the goalkeeper
    I'm saying pass the ball so the goalkeeper comes out of goal area to collect it
     
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  11. bradymk2

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    Walter thinks it had an advantage
     
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  12. Mckechnie Orange

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    It's not a new concept. Grobbelaar was known as a sweeper keeper back in the 80s. Obviously it depends a lot on the decision making of the keeper as to when it's safe and when there's a defensive threat.

    There's nothing wrong with it if your keeper has the ability to do that.
     
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  13. Ajbtiger

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    Allows us to remain high up the pitch whilst maintaining an extra man advantage.
     
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  14. Mckechnie Orange

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    It comes with risks though. And depends on a level of competence in playing that way.
     
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  15. petersaxton

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    Macca is 1.91m
    agree about being out muscled
     
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  16. petersaxton

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    I realise that but the risk is leaving the goal unattended
     
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    Obviously that’s the case, Seri knew the risk and ****ed about with it when he didn’t need to and left Pandur out to dry. We were 4-0 down I imagine he could’ve got back but why would he unnecessarily sprint in a nothing game?
     
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  18. petersaxton

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    how many goals did it result in us scoring?
    how many goals did it result in us conceding?
     
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  19. Ajbtiger

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    Yeh and if done well Tim feels the risk is worth it, I enjoyed the 1st half so I'm on board to be honest but then I wasn't exactly an Alsop hater.

    If you watch the lobbed goal again, there was Seri making the initial mistake, then there was an opportunity to press the player (think it was McLoughlin), he started to do it but then changed his mind and backed off which was the wrong decision, he probably wouldn't have won the ball as the Fenerbahce player would have played in his team mate, that would then have likely presented another chance to try and get a tackle in.

    My point is, if done well, it shouldn't be as easy as it was last night.
     
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  20. bradymk2

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    Tim should just abandon his system
    Saint peter has spoken
     
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