Kinnell….i know it’s a pre season friendly….but….that was a tough watch….so many individual errors, we gifted them 4 goals. sheets are still dry…..but the levels of concern have gone up a few levels……
Didn't see the game but according to most on here we were quite good to watch for the first halfhour, none of which is on the highlights reel, understandably.
I didn't see the game so I can only go by what's said on here. It sounded like a high tempo first half, running out of steam in the second. A bit like Bielsa at Leeds and we know how that ended up, don't we? To send half a team all that way to train seems a waste of time to me. Some brain team!
It wasn't particularly high tempo. Only real difference is we pissed around ineffectually in wide areas without creating as opposed to pissing around at the back without creating anything. Also looked far more susceptible in transition as a result.ive got no issue with warm weather training camps though. Seems the standard for most clubs these days. Ultimately it's about finding fitness and the climate can help with that.
Head coach Tim Walter picked out the positives in the performance after Hull City were beaten by Süper Lig side Fenerbahçe at Şükrü Saracoğlu Stadium. A brace from Edin Džeko and goals from Fred, Sebastian Szymański and Mert Hakan Yandaş put the Istanbul club into a firm lead, with Sincere Hall grabbing his second goal in successive pre-season games for the Tigers. However, there were some positive signs from the performance, which Walter explained after the friendly. He said: “At the end, we made a lot of mistakes, especially in possession – we had a lot of possession – but all I can say is that they kept going and going and they tried it and tried it, so for me, it’s fine because I saw that they have the willingness to do it. “They were so tired, but they kept going and unfortunately, especially in the opponent’s last third, we weren’t strict, and we weren’t tough enough, and we had a lot of samey chances. But we were also good in the pressing situation, and we conquered the ball very often. “[We must work on our work in] the final thirds on both sides; we have to defend harder because we have many situations where we dropped back but we have to defend forwards and defend offensively. We dropped back too far and that invited our opponents for chances to cross, which they had a lot of quality. “Over the past two weeks, they have done a good job, and I am very happy with the performance because they kept going and that was very important."
Cant be bothered to read back... which dick said Pandur was responsible for the first goal... FFS... no doubt responsible for the second that came off Macca's arse... the third as well... no doubt the 4th and of course the 5th...
You learn far more losing 5-1 to a team full of elite level players than you do winning 5-1 against Winterton. Being together for a week, having a quality test against a decent European side with one of the most globally known managers and a few beers together before coming home will have done this group a lot of good. Tim will have learnt a lot about the group and I am sure the players have done the same with him. I've still seen nothing to raise concern, it seems like a pretty standard pre-season with a bit of a clear out and a new manager wanting to build his squad in his own time. If we are bottom 10 at Christmas then I will gladly admit I was a fool for not listening to the bed wetters but I just dont see what the panic is about at the moment.
So, Jacob and McLoughlin not bothering to jump had nothing to do with it... in a situation like that, might the keeper at least expect his defenders might do something about it...
Jacob did jump. I just checked. The header was pretty weak too. Regarding the 4th goal, if Panur had been in his goal he would have saved it. You can say that the coaches want him to play like a normal defender but a goalkeeper shouldnt be stupid and leave his goal unguarded.
So you are one of those who thinks that a goalkeeeper should only see protecting his goal as a minor inconvenience?
I know I joked about you banging on about it for another year, but if you really are going to, I'm going to give you your own thread.
FFS Man... what are you watching... (or checking on highlights) jump...... unfortunately for Jacob thats a big failing of his...
So, I am the only one who thinks not protecting his goal is what a goalkeeper should be doing? Somebody says I'm talking **** because I think a goalkeeper should protect his goal yet I am the one in the wrong!? I wonder how many teachers on the UEFA Pro courses recommend leaving the goal unguarded? I wonder how many people will think that losing possession in their own half will result in the opponents having a chance to kick the ball into an empty goal? Is the risk worth it compared to the opportunities created by passing the ball to the goalkeeper outside the penalty area?
