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  1. clingo

    clingo Well-Known Member

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    BBC2 Wales at 17.45
     
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    7 minutes gone, Fishlock puts the girlies 1 up.

    Well taken goal. Could teach our boys a thing or two.
     
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    Big Nev watching the girls.
    Big being the operative word.<yikes>

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    Bellers is there too.

    It's a bit too easy for Wales and they're just losing their shape a little bit. I guess it's understandable given they've had no defending to do. Some good individual displays.
    Let's hope for a second half goal fest
     
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    So it stayed 2-0. Not the best performance I've seen from Wales and I think a bit of complacency crept in. Kosova had one or two excellent ball players and could have caused us more problems had they played with more confidence.
    Still, job done and some valuable time for squad players.
    Cymru am Byth
     
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    In Kings speech today. Is this really needed?
    Will it be a costly toothless and a waste of time?

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  9. Barry Tiger

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    The way football is structured and financed gives too much power to the few and to hell with everyone else. Until the 'big six', or whatever you want to call them, b****r off and join the European Super League, or whatever it will be called, will we perhaps see the Premier League give proper consideration and support, financially and otherwise, to clubs in the lower levels of the football pyramid. However when the inevitable happens, the money from TV and the big financial backers, will follow the big six, sending a financial shock to everyone left behind. The regulator will have to have some serious powers and strength of resolve to take on the big boys and Premier League as expensive litigation will surely follow.
     
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    Why should the big 6 bugger off. They are the pinnacle of English football and to lose them would devalue the quality we see from the top teams.

    A very small minded, one eyed, parochial view if I may say so BT. Sleep badly last night?

    Don't you recall the heights of our Prem experiences, beating Man City, last minute draw v the other Mancs?

    Hardly the feeling from such results v Fulham or Crystal Palace.

    Perhaps you would prefer it if we played in the Welsh League?

    The subject matter was the proposed regulator. Given the right level of power and authority such a person could make a difference to the game.
     
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    I think it's a good appointment and hopefully it will focus on fans and stop unscrupulous owners. Anything that can stop another Bury.
     
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  12. Barry Tiger

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    You are right, I didn't sleep well last night, however that clubs at the top of the game, as much as I admire their footballers, are too powerful (even within the Premier League) and have more than enough financial backing to do what they want, to the detriment of everyone else. It's because of the ever increasing power and flow of money, that has grown over many years that has impacted clubs in the lower echelons. That does not make excuses for clubs such as Derby, Reading and Bury where there are huge question marks over the actions of the owners. The EFL need to get their act together and not allow these people into the game in the first place and to clamp down harder on clubs that break the rules. We do seem to be in agreement that the regulator will need the right level of power and authority.
    Not sure what the Welsh League has to do this discussion, although it will also come under the regulator.
     
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  13. BrizzleBluebird

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    Hear hear, I'm with BT on this one... :emoticon-0137-clapp

    I couldn't give a hoot who we play/beat - yes there is a little bit of additional pleasure when you beat a 'bigger' team and one that isn't expected to lose to the likes of little old Cardiff - but that is actually part of the problem - beating teams like Man City, Liverpool, Arsenal etc. is now seen as a 'shock' for any team midway and below even in the same division as them because of the total imbalance in spending power and squad qualities.
    That imbalance has just gotten worse year on year because of the selfishness of the 'big' clubs who are doing only what it right by them and not the other 86 or so members of the league pyramid, let alone those even further down the chain (FA Cup replay's being binned anyone???).

    They are continually pressuring the authorities to change rules so that they can spend ludicrous amounts of money, despite usually making huge losses knowing full well that other clubs couldn't afford to match that spending, even if the rules allow it...

    It's only now Man City are dominating that some of the others are starting to get a bit upset by such shenanigans...

    The FA and now the greedy big clubs are killing off football as a decent competition and slowly minimising opportunities for smaller teams to compete - they just don't want it.

    So I'm all for the big boys buggering off to their European and eventually World Super League so we can re-structure to what may be a 'lower quality' (debatable given some of the performances at the Euros) but hopefully fairer and more competitive league.

    When finishing 4th or 5th in the league is more important and seen as a bigger achievement than winning a trophy, you know things are broken.
     
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    It seems we got a mention where this was concerned!

    "[the Football Governance Bill falls under the latter], with fans of clubs like Cardiff having lobbied to get the bill passed owing to the fight they had to keep the integrity of their beloved club's badge and kit colour a decade ago. The guidance of the bill reads: "This comes after fans at clubs like Cardiff City and Hull City had to battle to bring back, or keep, their club’s colours and badge and name."
     
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    Not according Nin's above post.

    "The top 5 divisions of men's football".

    I don't think that includes the Welsh League.

    Take out the top 6 and maybe a couple more and the Prem League won't be worth watching.

    Further down we will be left with "great games" against the likes of Preston, Oxford, Rotherham etc, even the north Walian gogs, heaven forbid.

    Hardly exciting.

    As for the Welsh League perhaps you would be happier seeing the likes of TNS etc?

    I certainly wouldn't. All this smacks of a lack of ambition and even jealousy.
     
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  16. BrizzleBluebird

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    I see your "smacks of jealousy" and raise you a cowing to the "self appointed elite"....

    Why should the likes of Mansfield be considered inferior to Man City or Lincoln be seen as less important than Liverpool in the big scheme of things?

    Some of my best memories of supporting Cardiff have come when visiting grounds such as Aldershot and Preston... Going to Premier League grounds with their extortionate prices, plastic tourist fans and superiority complex has given me far less pleasure more often than not, and no, it's not because of the results, I've seen us losing to the likes of Torquay and Exeter often enough in the past!! :emoticon-0140-rofl:

    Sadly the days of the "top" teams realising they actually do need us lesser clubs is long gone and fuelling the myth that beating the likes of Man Utd is an achievement worth more than beating say Crystal Palace just pushes football deeper towards the money pit abyss....
     
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    Caernavon let slip a 3-0 aggregate score - it’s 3-3 and deep into injury time
     
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    <applause><applause><applause>
     
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    Caernavon sneak through on penalties <applause>
     
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  20. Barry Tiger

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    Just like you BfB, My first away games way back circa 1970, in the old division two, were against the likes of Bristol City, Oxford Utd, Preston NE, Swindon Town, Aston Villa, Birmingham City, Blackpool, Pompey and others, were exciting and got me hooked as a City fan, as much as home matches at Ninian Park did. The occasional match in the FA Cup or League Cup against the likes of Leeds and Arsenal also excited me didn't leave me with a feeling of being ripped off financially.

    55 years later I still follow City home and away and still get a buzz from playing these clubs, largely as equals, where anyone can beat anyone on the day. Looking back, as much as I enjoyed our couple of seasons in the Prem and taking my blue coloured specs off enjoyed the skills of the opposition and visiting some grounds I had not been to for a while, we were never going to be able to compete without huge investment that our current owners are not able or willing to do, in fact I am grateful that the financial support we have been given has kept us afloat without going the same way as some other EFL clubs.

    No jealousy at all BfB, good luck to them all, however my overall feeling, having experienced the Premier League is as Brizzle says, is in many cases the ordinary fan has been priced out of their club and have been replaced with international tourists. Given the global popularity of the game and the Premiership in particular, there is a constant flow of visitors to matches.

    The interest in owning football clubs by businessmen and consortiums from around the world concerns me, particularly from regimes that that have dubious human rights records. If ever such a regime came to Cardiff I would have to seriously consider my continuing support.

    I still consider my Cardiff City season ticket to be good value, even if it is in the cheap seats and as an OAP, but I now refuse to pay extortionate tickets prices and have never been to Manchester City (they seem to have forgotten their roots), I refuse to pay Leeds ticket prices and even Bristol City are getting in on the act (who do they think they are).

    Finally, as I have to go out, I have seen TNS several times, against Barry Town (who are going through tough times), Cardiff Met and they also played their European Cup match in Cardiff against opposition I cant recall at the moment. I enjoy taking in the occasional Welsh League match and on friday will either be at Afan Lido to watch Cardiff U21, or at Taffs Well v Merthyr. All these little clubs deserve our support and deserve to survive. They are the life blood of the game.
     
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