Rico thinks a system like that makes you a Tory ****. I was called that for saying we should adopt the French system. Guess which country the WHO rates as having the best health care system and it isn’t the one on the UK. This is a long read but explains it and addresses a couple of the points you make. If you look up the carte vital they refer to in the article you can see why a lot are trying to cross the channel. Failed asylum seekers and those who think they will fail it know they will get treatment here and more than likely be accepted even if not genuine. (That is not mu opinion but that of an aid worker in Calais.) Anyway worth reading if you have the time. https://www.frenchentree.com/living-in-france/healthcare/the-cost-of-going-to-the-doctor/
I think France's healthcare system is suffering also - A&Es have to close, which I don't think happens in the UK and outpatient and preventative care is well behind the UK. There's pros and cons of all systems and no easy answers. Maybe it's easier to try and change the mindset of those not turning up to appointments - educate, rather than punish.
They are way in front of us in preventative medicine meaning their cancer survival rates and other areas are better than us. How will you educate people who don’t turn up? Employ an army of fancily titled advisers to visit them and give them a telling off? Make an appointment for them to come and see an adviser? Oh, maybe mot…
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That's not how a discussion works - you can't invent my reply and then discredit it... It doesn't make sense. I don't think 'telling off' works. Perhaps an automated system where their appointment is held, and they have to confirm via SMS an hour or two before that they will be attending, otherwise their appointment goes to a walk-in. Majority of booking should be automated anyway. France may well be ahead on many issues. However, as with most of Europe, they are following the UK in issues being suffered, just a bit further behind the curve. Obesity, lifestyle choices, increasingly older populations... No system can handle these adequately. I don't know what the answer is - if many ten year olds now are going to live to 100, then the issues faced will be huge, irrespective if you have to pay £5 for an appointment (I pay £25!).
Older ppl get iller and have more complex health needs. Also generations in their 60s and 70s now didn't necessarily have the information to look after themselves when younger with food, smoking, alcohol, exercise, health checks, sun exposure, working conditions, health and safety etc leading to unhealthier old age. How many pensioners in 1990 vs today. Its had a huge effect. Of course immigration as well. Its a complex issue, but personally think that a £5 gp charge implemented now, will be largely pointless in the mid to long term as the issues go far deeper.
How many due to.plastics and **** in food Id guess far.more younger people in hospitals than 30 years ago
I don't know about that so can't give an opinion. I can't say whether younger generations will be healthier or unhealthier, just that as a general rule, the older you get, the more you require health services.
According to nutritional experts, the healthiest humans have been was when we were hunter gatherers. They claim that the move to a diet with more grain started a downwards trend.
Plus the last few decades has seen a massive increase in sitting down for long periods Which is exrtemely bad As well as plastic use grown exponentially
Interesting thread from a GP perspective. https://x.com/thesalariedgp/status/1812239105297928271?s=46&t=DAxwWj15XaMBwCrrY9gKFQ For what it’s worth the new Govt suggestion they’ll prioritise funding to GPs rather than hospitals makes sense in theory. BUT they are all effectively private businesses so not quite as ‘NHS’ as people think. Funding is fine as long as it doesn’t just get gamed by individual practices to earn more for their business partners. Maybe pay GPs well but make them really part of the NHS instead?
The confermation back by SMS is a good idea, wouldn't work for all (not all have smart phones / reception etc), but as part of something to help reduce. Underlying is not enough health staff generally and would take 10 years to redress if we start now. Allow GP to be GP again not 'multispecialist..' and the other roles that have been foisted on them. Personally no problem with pharmacy or nurse specialist prescribing simple / repeats like anti biotics. No simple solutions only simple people thinking there is a simple answer
I agree Brady, the increase in processed foods in the last 30/40 years is having a massive impact on our nations health and the younger generation are being fed this by the older generation. It’s one of the reasons for the upturn in cancer. Sad but true.
As I was saying last night before the broom appeared, Trump's next speech is titled 'I 'ate you Butler' The views expressed in my posts are not necessarily mine.
Many reasons - sedentary lifestyles, increased chemical usage, processed food, poorer quality sleep, but at the same time, some ppl are healthier than ever before - exercising, better food, better preventative care etc so there is an increasing divide. Health certainly is wealth these days and it seems like a lot of things can affect it, but the genetic lottery probably plays the largest role.
