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True. Although I think it's fair to say Trump wasn't doing what they told him to and it's not easy to react in that situation. Say what you want about Trump but he's a master at PR and presentation. He knew exactly what he was doing when he stood tall and raised his fist like that.
It was great PR, certainly made the most of the opportunity. As I said earlier, this will be Trump's ticket to a win
 
How this plays out is now very much in Trump and his supporters hands.

Hard to see that election as basically not over at this point.

If he or they seek retribution this could spiral very quickly, very scary times.

We are not safe from internal conflict in the US.
 
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How this plays out is now very much in Trump and his supporters hands.

Hard to see that election as basically not over at this point.

If he or they seek retribution this could spiral very quickly, very scary times.

We are not safe from internal conflict in the US.

Yeah, scary times for the West, it will be interesting to find out any motivation of the shooter and his background. Could just be a lone nutter.
 
To be fair, on the live feed where the lectern mic is still live, you can hear them say shooter down before they attempt to move DT. I'm as cynical as they come but find it pretty hard to believe this is a hoax. Just another bad, bad day for democracy. Despicable stuff and the world is in a dangerous spot right now. What makes me sad, aside from that, is that I suspect gun control still won't get the action and conversation that it truly deserves, even after someone threatens the life of yet another president
Whoops, apologies, bleary eyed fat fingered post. Comment readdressed.
 
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I'll wait until the facts are out and verified if they ever are. You will take as gospel what ever suits your need to spout trollybollocks wummery. Trump remains a proven liar, misogynistic pussy grabbing serial adulterer, convicted felon and fraudster. Your head is firmly wedged in a dark and musty place.

Have you quoted the wrong quote Jabbo?
 
The man was just shot in the head. 1 inch from dying. And he doesn’t deserve any sympathy from you.. you’re ****ing gone mate.

Youre exactly who I thought you were. The left are exactly what I say they are. Narcisstic virtue signalling bell ends with no comprehension of the real world.

Next we’ll have jabbo on here saying this is all a conspiraloon or some other bullshit.

You deserve the utmost contempt for all of your pathetically shallow views.
I'll wait until the facts are out and verified if they ever are. You will take as gospel whatever suits your need to spout trollybollocks wummery. Trump remains a proven liar, misogynistic pussy grabbing serial adulterer, convicted felon and fraudster. Your head is firmly wedged in a dark and musty place.
 
This is a warning to our country. This election was the most bitterly polarised I can remember. The divisive speech on the far right and the intimidatory tactics of the far left have gone too far.

We are not the US. There’s a reason many voters have said Sunak’s concession speech and his first speech in opposition were his best. Because we finally saw some humanity and humility. Those are the qualities that resonate with our electorate and we cannot allow hate speech and harassment to become normalised.
 
This is a warning to our country. This election was the most bitterly polarised I can remember. The divisive speech on the far right and the intimidatory tactics of the far left have gone too far.

We are not the US. There’s a reason many voters have said Sunak’s concession speech and his first speech in opposition were his best. Because we finally saw some humanity and humility. Those are the qualities that resonate with our electorate and we cannot allow hate speech and harassment to become normalised.

Despite the rise of Reform I think we can be very proud of the way our election was handled and the extremely smooth and gracious transition between Sunak and Starmer.

We had our hot point during the Brexit times and things feel much healthier now in terms of debate, although it could still deteriorate again by 2029, hopefully the recovery remains on track.

When the shock clears I don’t actually think it’s surprising this assassination attempt has happened, Trump and Biden both felt hugely at risk of something like this with the political temperature out there + the fact every ****er out there is armed and assassination attempts in America are hardly rare, in the last 70 years they have President Kennedy, Candidate Kennedy, Reagan, Bush (one of the 9/11 planes was set for the White House), Obama (ricin letter).

It also happens at the lower levels, some Trumpers themselves were intent on killing Mike Pence in the insurrection.

There was a plot to kidnap Gretchen Whitmer (Governor of Michigan and possible Biden replacement).

US congresswoman Gabby Giffords who was shot in the head in 2011.

The hammer attack on Nancy Pelosi’s husband.

Political violence in America has always been pretty common unfortunately.

Although unfortunately we have had Jo Cox and David Amess in recent memory, so we aren’t entirely safe from that ourselves, but we do feel in a healthier space than we were, at least for now.
 
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Awful news. Glad he survived but incredibly sad that somebody lost their life.

Election over there basically a formality.
 
Grim.

I somewhat expected this. Trump will obviously win the election as no one will vote for Biden with his mental decline.

Hope he’s ok.

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The man suspected of shooting at former US President Donald Trump has been named by the FBI as Thomas Matthew Crooks.

He was 20 years old and from Bethel Park, Pennsylvania, they said in a statement.

State voter records show that Crooks was a registered Republican, US media report. He is also reported to have donated $15 to a liberal campaign group in 2021.
 
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The man suspected of shooting at former US President Donald Trump has been named by the FBI as Thomas Matthew Crooks.

He was 20 years old and from Bethel Park, Pennsylvania, they said in a statement.

State voter records show that Crooks was a registered Republican, US media report. He is also reported to have donated $15 to a liberal campaign group in 2021.
I was going to post this and anticipate a lot more to come. The wheat and chaff separation system will be on overload.
 
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