What effect would just a half of these missing voters had on the results? Reform for their 4 seats did get a good few million votes but cost the Conservatives quite a lot of their lost seats and thus gifted Labour an easy passage ............ A GOV by default YOU CAN SAY [ was mentioned as that in the early hours of one / two pundits and here we have it.................... Parliament results Counting under way. After 648 of 650 seats declared. Change compared with 2019 please log in to view this image Labour Total seats 412 Change +211 Total votes 9,686,329 Share 33.7% Share change +1.6 ... / 23,625 votes per seat please log in to view this image Conservative Total seats 121 Change -250 Total votes 6,814,650 Share 23.7% Share change -19.9 ... 56,319 votes per seat please log in to view this image Liberal Democrat Total seats 71 Change +63 Total votes 3,499,969 Share 12.2% Share change +0.6 ... 49,295 votes per seat please log in to view this image Scottish National Party Total seats 9 Change -38 Total votes 708,759 Share 2.5% Share change -1.3 please log in to view this image Sinn Fein Total seats 7 Change 0 Total votes 210,891 Share 0.7% Share change +0.1 please log in to view this image Independent Total seats 6 Change +6 Total votes 562,040 Share 2.0% Share change +1.4 please log in to view this image Democratic Unionist Party Total seats 5 Change -3 Total votes 172,058 Share 0.6% Share change -0.2 please log in to view this image Reform UK Total seats 4 Change +4 Total votes 4,092,209 Share 14.3% Share change +12.3 .. 1,023,052 votes per seat please log in to view this image Green Total seats 4 Change +3 Total votes 1,939,509 Share 6.8% Share change +4.1 ... 484,877 votes per seat please log in to view this image Plaid Cymru Total seats 4 Change +2 Total votes 194,811 Share 0.7% Share change +0.2
It’s a discussion to have whether it should be a requirement to vote. I believe other countries do it, I might be wrong. There’s obviously the question of how it would be enforced. But it’s worth looking into although I don’t think any party would instigate that discussion .
having contacts within up and coming graduates doing degree's etc etc etc I had an opportunity to meet one later last evening after the pub for an interesting chat which revolved around the GE and a view point from a 22 year old Bsc who voted for Tessa! so bonus for him I think she gained a seat. An interesting 20 mins or so chat with him and his girlfriend which did cover a bit of the point you make. he went to SOUTHAMPTON uni and took part in the regular " chats/ forums/ discussions" he basically said [ based on surveys around Southampton area ] why do's... that is why why do people do this as opposed to that ... jist would indicate the missing 19,000,000 are probably about 55% [said just over a half ] are positive minded so hate doing something they might attach to that might not succeed and around 20% were people "unable to or forgot to", there was a whole load of other excuses that made up the rest .... [ note ........ his comments were sure about first figure "I think it was?" 2nd figure and left over was the residue ! ] As this was a generalization, included was biggest / main Q WHY DO YOU VOTE THIS OR THAT WAY, but covered a whole manner of other things to smooth over the Q with things , not just political voting It could be safe to say the catastrophe was caused by 2 major events ... Reform party [ a lot of their votes were deciding facotrs on Tory lost seats up until about 4am I sort of noted about 20 results then they started not showing the figures as much as they were coming in thick and fast! Number 2 the positives! Assuming just 50% + of the 19m were positives say 10m 10,000,000 and applying it to the opposition parties.. say 4 of them and they took the % of votes cast to their totals an example would be say... LIBDEMS with 12% OF THE VOTE GETTING ANOTHER ... 1,200,000 votes... hypothetically that would be almost 1900 votes per seat fought for! with Labour staying in same number, as euphoria and winning means those are all happy people casting their vote as they are on a winner........ reform would have a few more although being new might not gain the 14+% Tories however would have a quarter of 10m = 2500 per seat to play with. notes 21 seats not contested by main parties the available number would need to be applied to various seats as some constituencies are smaller /bigger than an average. To be truthful Ashton, IMO THOSE THAT DIDNT VOTE HAVE UNLEASHED THEIR OWN PUNISHMENT .... the consequences of the next 5 years. My wife said this am She feels sorry for the WASPI'S ... THE PENSIONERS ... and the people being deprived of housing as Labour will put illegals into houses to say " we have reduced the £6m a day hotel bills" and if the few cases around here are anything to go by I pity their neighbours and the shopkeepers who get robbed daily .. even the charity shop!!!!!!
Voting is so important to a democracy, it’s imperative we engage people somehow, the alternative doesn’t bear thinking about. Genuinely I’d rather my preferred party loose, but with a high turnout. It scares me when many feel so disenfranchised they don’t vote.
I thought the same about the disastrous Brexit vote. If only those lazy youngsters had voted we wouldn’t be in this sh1t. They couldn’t be @rsed - so they have no right whatsoever to moan.
I lived in Australia for 7 years, and it’s law that you have to vote ( or at least sign in and go to the ballot booth…). I like that idea, and fully support its introduction here in the UK.
Well first cabinet meeting ............... and ............ to many prisoners so not going to send a lot of offenders to klink ... well that will save some money without a tax increase!! needs to build 20,000 new prison spaces thats 25% more than now abolished Rwanda .... written off a few £m's already spent. So expect an increase as they dither dather to try and work out a plan on what to do, and watch the boats arrive now and hotels fill up and councils [housing departments ] deprive British citizens of rented accomodation........... going to build 1,5000,000 new homes well.. that is 300,000 per annum...they will be mostly 3 -4 bedroom so expecting 6 million souls to fill them by 2029! [ probably number of illegal boat people that have crossed by then ! ] That is more houses than Bristol, Gloucester/ Cheltenham, Bath and Newport! SO will need at least 75, 000 new school spaces [ likely 100,000 ] 10 new sewage treatment works ... at least the area of somerset to accomodate everything .. and the needs go on, go on and on ..............
please log in to view this image Home Office data shows that approximately 40,000 people have entered the UK illegally since March 2023. The Illegal Migration Act 2023 deems asylum applications as inadmissible if the claimant has entered the UK illegally, but not all the act’s provisions have yet been commenced. In 2022/23, the UK's government expenditure was approximately 1.15 trillion pounds, around 45.3 percent of GDP. This spending was financed by 1.02 trillion pounds of revenue raised, and 1.28 billion pounds of borrowing. Although the UK government can still borrow money in the future, it also needs to abide by certain fiscal rules, one of which is that debt should be falling within a five-year timeframe. Recent forecasts suggest that while this is expected to be the case, it is based on falling government deficits in the next five years. Whoever wins the UK's 2024 general election will face tough economic choices in the coming years. Hitting fiscal targets, such as reducing the national debt, will require a careful balancing of the books, and possibly the need for either spending cuts or tax rises. The two major parties, Labour and the Conservatives, have both ruled out raising the main government tax sources, Income Tax, National Insurance, and VAT, and have so far remained silent on possible spending cuts. With limits on borrowing, and no tax rises or spending cuts, maintaining, let alone improving public services, will prove a challenging prospect for the next government. July 2024 Unemployment is at 1.6million July 2024 Benefit claimants is 4 million July 2024 Undocumented population [ illegals ] .. 800,000 / 1,200,000 Statement from the new chancellor July 2024 .."there is money in the kitty but was expecting more" [ my interpretation of her comment ] July 2024 Nurses/ Police / Doctors /inflation/ interest ... [info on another thread ... GE ++++ JULY 4th 2024 ++++ THE DAY OF RECKONING ] July 2024 comments on other countries media etc KS is a bland and boring addition to British politics / has no realistic plans / gifted the job / states a lazy approch to the job.. monday to Friday 9 -6pm!...............
what do we learn that knobheads chancellor? Well his history as a tool makers son and "head of" some say not all that successful in charge of the law department is that he delegates [ although stated by a number of countries as a bland boring person! ] Is this so he can get more time with his family ... working a 5 day week and respectint POETS day! The hypocritical comment, but laid out the plan. Started by knocking the past [ which really no .gov had control over the 2 main additional factors, and had cleaned up the catastrophic mess left by 2010 "inheritance!" this gives her a bit of base although today she didnt actually say "we have been left a fairly hefty chunk of cash in the till! " Basically her plan was to try and form a base for the building programme of 300,000 houses per year bearing mind already there is already 22,000 houses built already and 30,000 + in the pipeline and at least the 14,00 that are awaiting final approval to ensure they are quality....NOT JERRY BUILT or substandard...... reading between the lines look out for our "green and pleasant land" as the safety of green fields is about to put under the cosh, to accommodate 1,500,000 new houses without strict guidelines , and what is needed "service wise" will need an area the size of Somerset / Dorset ... Somerset / Gloucester........... ADMITTED it will affect the enviroment .. put extra pressure on services and ... ignore local opposition. [ bear in mind the majority of labour voters are crammed into towns and cities a lot never venture far from their living space then you see why they will never be on the side of the less stressful side of life. OK so private sector will build the houses and thus pay for them and all costs ..... but all services will be responsibilty of existing or local gov or .GOV! ROADS WILL be needed to be built or improved to service these new "patch's of houses so look out motorist for a 20% increase in road tax! ???? sounds good.. a breath of fresh air [ well in areas of the green belt it wont be ] .... but where are the builders to build the houses? Timber? tiles? bricks? industries at present unable to keep up! So of course import it all .............. ummmmmm that doesnt do a lot for creating jobs though!...... so more on the dole so how does that work with lowering the benefits bill????????????? to be continued over the next 5 years as that fine ship HMS United Kingdom SLOWLY SLIPS BENEATH THE WATER...GLUUUUUUG
