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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

  • Stay in

    Votes: 56 47.9%
  • Get out

    Votes: 61 52.1%

  • Total voters
    117
  • Poll closed .
I’d like to give you my opinion as whether that’s OK with me, Vern, but as someone who might not vote I’m not sure I’m allowed. :)

Uber ...vote. There must be someone you partially agree with

even if not... spoil your ballot "none of the above"
 
Interesting beer fuelled debate in a succession of Riga bars with my mate, who is 100% Labour of the ‘pragmatic’ Blair tendency. He was getting his excuses in early for Starmer, how difficult everything was going to be, how long ‘change’ is going to take etc etc.

I suggested two key performance indicators (sorry for the jargon) that any decent government of any type should be able to commit to, but especially a left(ish) one - a measurable reduction in numbers of people relying on food banks and a measurable reduction in homelessness (not just street sleeping, but those families trapped in one room accommodation for ages without a permanent home) within a decent timescale (a year?). He tried to wriggle out of even these, as I suspect Starmer will, before reluctantly accepting them. I will be interested to see if anything changes in these areas.

I’ve voted, for entirely negative reasons not a shred of hope in my heart, but almost instantly regretted it, the purity of my soul is now sullied. I should have stayed with non voting comrades, who apparently don’t have a right to an opinion.
 
I think in a free society one is allowed to conclude that nobody represents one’s views and either not bother to vote or spoil one’s ballot paper.

I don’t see how this disqualifies one from having an opinion. It’s having an opinion that led to the decision not to vote or spoil the paper.

This isn’t apathy and isn’t any worse that tactical voting, which is simply an anti-vote rather than anything positive.

I have come around to the idea of PR over recent years; perhaps that would encourage more positive voting rather than cynical anti-voting?


I agree with this. I believe it is my democratic right to not vote, should I choose. And that is what I intend doing.

As a jokey aside my mate just messaged me saying he had voted. He said 'I ticked the one I wanted and put crosses against all the others'
 
It is absolutely your right not to vote.
Whole point of democracy.


But you cannot say..well I didn't vote for them...you didn't vote against them...or for anyone

I can at least say that I did not vote for Boris's Tories in the last election.


My argument begins to fail at this point as no one voted for Truss or Sunak
 
I have an image of sitting on your sofa at 2AM, trousers and panties around your ankles, a box of Kleenex on the sofa beside you, as if you’re watching Babestation rather than Election Night Special. Quite a horny image, you sexy minx, you.

Babestation for lefties is any channel that airs past recordings of Margaret Beckett's parliamentary speeches
 
I have an image of sitting on your sofa at 2AM, trousers and panties around your ankles, a box of Kleenex on the sofa beside you, as if you’re watching Babestation rather than Election Night Special. Quite a horny image, you sexy minx, you.

Better than ****ing over GBeebies.
 
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It is absolutely your right not to vote.
Whole point of democracy.


But you cannot say..well I didn't vote for them...you didn't vote against them...or for anyone

I can at least say that I did not vote for Boris's Tories in the last election.


My argument begins to fail at this point as no one voted for Truss or Sunak

I imagine one could legitimately say that they’re all ****e and so I didn’t vote for any of them.
 
Tactical voting is a good way of making sure one's vote has maximum impact. People are saying that there's not a great deal of enthusiasm for Starmer's Labour, which may well be true, but there is definitely a lot of enthusiasm for kicking the Tories out. I'm looking forward to following the results tonight and will celebrate every Tory loss, whichever party it may be to (except Reform maybe). Shame they can't spread them out over two or three days for maximum enjoyment.

As long as they stop the count/result release during the football that sounds like a great plan! <cheers><popcorn>
 
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I'm not voting
Am I allowed an opinion




I was allowed to vote in UK elections for I think 15 years after I left
Didn't think it was fair as it wasn't going to effect me
Lots of kiwis get to vote from overseas even if they have no intentions of ever coming back
It does change seats here
Shouldn't be allowed
 
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I'm not voting
Am I allowed an opinion




I was allowed to vote in UK elections for I think 15 years after I left
Didn't think it was fair as it wasn't going to effect me
Lots of kiwis get to vote from overseas even if they have no intentions of ever coming back
It does change seats here
Shouldn't be allowed
No you're not allowed a ****in opinion. Bloody immigrants
 
I'm not voting
Am I allowed an opinion




I was allowed to vote in UK elections for I think 15 years after I left
Didn't think it was fair as it wasn't going to effect me
Lots of kiwis get to vote from overseas even if they have no intentions of ever coming back
It does change seats here
Shouldn't be allowed

Sure, it's always good to hear objective opinions
 
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