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Off Topic General Election

Discussion in 'Hull City' started by Chazz Rheinhold, Jul 3, 2024.

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Winner?

  1. Labour

  2. Tory

  3. Lib Dem

  4. Reform

  5. Green

  6. The rest

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  1. Drew

    Drew Well-Known Member

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    No. People who don’t know anything about politics shouldn’t be forced to vote.

    I’m not saying there should be a bar of knowledge about politics - as I think many of us wouldn’t make it, including me. But I’d much prefer people to still feel like they are making the decision to vote - rather than feel like they have to and the country have to deal with the decision they make because of that emotion.
     
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    SW3 Chelsea Tiger Well-Known Member

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    agree with most of that…..but not sure why you have included Doctors. Hospital doctors have just had a 20% pay rise!!!
     
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    That last bit is the same as here,
     
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  4. Walter Sobchak

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    Knowing a few doctors the whole funding system for the NHS is a complete racket; so much of it pissed away or channelled to private interests.
     
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    I don't know any Doctors myself,infact,I can't even remember what they look like anymore.

    Mine just seems to sit around all day and gets a nurse to phone you if you're under the weather..This seems to be the norm nowadays and all it does is increase the burden on A&E Doctors.
     
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    So he’d still be alive and well in 1966 lol.
     
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    Rocky road to dictatorship that!
     
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    Missed that bit. <doh>
     
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    im married to a Doctor. She’s a hospital consultant in Hull.
     
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    Compulsory voting leads to a dictatorship? Strange, I'd have said the opposite.
     
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    No it was was the 'only vote if you understand politics' bit I was thinking of.
     
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    Junior doctors are still campaigning for their pay rise. Meanwhile consultants now earn a basic of £99.5k to £132k and can earn much more privately on top while building both private and public pensions in readiness for retirement. Good luck to them, but some reform seems well overdue.
     
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    That’s just the basic pay. In reality it’s far far higher…research = extra pay, management roles = extra, if you are considered an expert & present at conferences = extra.
    Additional sessions to bring down waiting lists is £150-200 per hour

    most consultants earn £200k+, there are some who earn £500k + (That’s just NHS - not including private income)
     
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  15. Drew

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    Thats what I was trying to be clear not to say.

    I don’t agree with people only being allowed to vote if ‘they understand politics’.

    I was saying people shouldn’t ever be compulsory made to vote if they show no interest. I think it’s really important that people feel compelled to vote for whatever reason - as they have made a conscious decision - not because they ‘have to’.
     
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    My cousin is a consultant at HRI. Next time I see him the beers are on him.
     
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    Which completely destroys the theory that the NHS has been ravaged by Tory austerity...
     
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    SW3 Chelsea Tiger Well-Known Member

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    Yup
     
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    Junior Doctors have just accepted 12.4% in Wales which they were offered months ago rather than the 35% lets go on strike and show up the Tories and **** the patients pay claim
     
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    No, some people in the system being well paid doesn't completely destroy it. Some people are well paid in basically every industry.
     
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