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BobbyD said:
To be fair if i get old and decrepid and need some the clock care i would want to be wheeled off.

I initially typoed around the cock care. Might be a new business venture in Thailand
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There are plenty of people who'd pay good money for that <laugh>

I think the trouble when you get old, is that you get to a stage where you can no longer lob yourself down a mine shaft and would need somebody to do it for you. And nobody wants to ask a relative to murder them

Should be a psychopaths R us hotline you could ring
 
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This popped up on my facebook this morning.

Mercedes 240D the most driven taxi in Africa and the most sustainable car in the world.

Built for 30 years and 600,000 kilometers of use, these vehicles are now still reliably driving in the taxi service with often over 2 million kilometers and 45 years.
They can simply be operated clean and CO2 neutral with:
- Nut oil
- Fish oil
- Rapeseed oil
- Sunflower oil
- Jatropa oil
- Palm oil
- PTL Diesel
- Care Diesel
- Old frying grease
- Biodiesel
or don't keep CO2 neutral with fossil fuels either
- Mineral Diesel
- Mineral Kerosene
Currently, the life span of a new car is approx. 7 years old Mercedes W123 have not been built 7 times compared to a new vehicle and save 7 times the CO2 backpack of a new car.
We demand a turn away from the disposable cars to vehicles that are built for 30 years and 600,000 kilometers of use!


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Makes a lot of sense this. In our clamour to build millions of EVs under the guise of a green agenda, we're actually creating a bigger impact than if we simply made things to last. Remember having this convo with brb one of the times he was monster truck ranting, that even buying an old diesel still has less of an impact that all of the energy that goes into building a new EV.
 
RANDY said:
There are plenty of people who'd pay good money for that <laugh>

I think the trouble when you get old, is that you get to a stage where you can no longer lob yourself down a mine shaft and would need somebody to do it for you. And nobody wants to ask a relative to murder them

Should be a psychopaths R us hotline you could ring
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I’m torn on this subject now. I’m pretty sure my mum wouldn’t want to live like she does now with dementia, but she always seems happy when I visit (even if she no longer recognises me).
 
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pieguts said:
I’m torn on this subject now. I’m pretty sure my mum wouldn’t want to live like she does now with dementia, but she always seems happy when I visit (even if she no longer recognises me).
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My old man died from Dementia. I felt that it was more difficult from our perspective as a family trying to care for him than it was for him experiencing it.

A lot of the time he was just blissfully away with the fairies, whilst everybody else around him was falling apart.

that said, it was obviously no picnic for him and towards the end it got really rough :(
 
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RANDY said:
My old man died from Dementia. I felt that it was more difficult from our perspective as a family trying to care for him than it was for him experiencing it.

A lot of the time he was just blissfully away with the fairies, whilst everybody else around him was falling apart.

that said, it was obviously no picnic for him and towards the end it got really rough :(
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This is the 4th year mum has been in the home and I’m guessing around 2 years since it got to the point that she no longer recognised the family. However, she’s hanging on in her own little world and seems to be enjoying it. According to what I’ve read, she’s lasting longer than other dementia sufferers and doesn’t seem to be deteriorating quickly. I’m not looking forward to when stuff like eating becomes an issue.
 
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pieguts said:
This is the 4th year mum has been in the home and I’m guessing around 2 years since it got to the point that she no longer recognised the family. However, she’s hanging on in her own little world and seems to be enjoying it. According to what I’ve read, she’s lasting longer than other dementia sufferers and doesn’t seem to be deteriorating quickly. I’m not looking forward to when stuff like eating becomes an issue.
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Im glad she’s doing as well as she can be and she’s happy. That’s the main thing. Good that she’s in a home where she’s being cared for

I honestly think it’s the best place. My mum insisted that my dad didn’t go into care, largely because she is the type of person who buries her head in the sand and hopes problems go away, which of course with Dementia it doesn’t.

So we tried to care for him as best as possible, and it was a nightmare, because I ended up caring for my dad and trying to manage my mum’s breakdown. All the while having a toddler and a business to look after too.

My dad ended up in a nursing home right at the end, but in hindsight, he should have gone there 2-3 years before he did.
 
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RANDY said:
Im glad she’s doing as well as she can be and she’s happy. That’s the main thing. Good that she’s in a home where she’s being cared for

I honestly think it’s the best place. My mum insisted that my dad didn’t go into care, largely because she is the type of person who buries her head in the sand and hopes problems go away, which of course with Dementia it doesn’t.

So we tried to care for him as best as possible, and it was a nightmare, because I ended up caring for my dad and trying to manage my mum’s breakdown. All the while having a toddler and a business to look after too.

My dad ended up in a nursing home right at the end, but in hindsight, he should have gone there 2-3 years before he did.
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My mum fought any type of help until she had a fall at home and broke her hip. In hindsight it was the best thing that could have happened as it was becoming almost impossible for my brother and me to look after her, especially as my dad had already passed away. Even before her fall the dementia part was becoming a real problem.
 
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pieguts said:
My mum fought any type of help until she had a fall at home and broke her hip. In hindsight it was the best thing that could have happened as it was becoming almost impossible for my brother and me to look after her, especially as my dad had already passed away. Even before her fall the dementia part was becoming a real problem.
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Your situation sounds eerily familiar mate. My mum has fallen three times now. First time broke her hip, second time fractured her pelvis and now broken wrist and four broken ribs.

Albeit that my mum is stubborn as **** and just wants to stay at home and be cared for by everybody else….. I think she’ll end up in a care home eventually. Either that or I’ll lob myself off a cliff lol
 
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RANDY said:
This popped up on my facebook this morning.

Mercedes 240D the most driven taxi in Africa and the most sustainable car in the world.

Built for 30 years and 600,000 kilometers of use, these vehicles are now still reliably driving in the taxi service with often over 2 million kilometers and 45 years.
They can simply be operated clean and CO2 neutral with:
- Nut oil
- Fish oil
- Rapeseed oil
- Sunflower oil
- Jatropa oil
- Palm oil
- PTL Diesel
- Care Diesel
- Old frying grease
- Biodiesel
or don't keep CO2 neutral with fossil fuels either
- Mineral Diesel
- Mineral Kerosene
Currently, the life span of a new car is approx. 7 years old Mercedes W123 have not been built 7 times compared to a new vehicle and save 7 times the CO2 backpack of a new car.
We demand a turn away from the disposable cars to vehicles that are built for 30 years and 600,000 kilometers of use!


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Makes a lot of sense this. In our clamour to build millions of EVs under the guise of a green agenda, we're actually creating a bigger impact than if we simply made things to last. Remember having this convo with brb one of the times he was monster truck ranting, that even buying an old diesel still has less of an impact that all of the energy that goes into building a new EV.
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I've never agreed with electric vehicles. What you need to keep in mind, is as you said those taxis are in Africa, not the UK, where everything here use to turn into a rust bucket and unlike today, anything in the past was lucky to last 10 years without a lump falling off it...

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brb said:
I've never agreed with electric vehicles. What you need to keep in mind, is as you said those taxis are in Africa, not the UK, where everything here use to turn into a rust bucket and unlike today, anything in the past was lucky to last 10 years without a lump falling off it...

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That's true, and cars do rust less in hot dry climates. Although they are also subject to other environmental factors like heat perishing rubber, and dust ingress into CV boots and other moving parts. I think a lot of the cars that were built in the 80's and 90's for the UK market also used cheap chinese steel, which was prone to rusting.

But we know that manufacturers have for decades used the principles of 'planned obsolescence' in everything from washing machines, fridges, printers and including cars. Just to keep the manufacturing process going and to sell us more and more stuff. We also had the scrappage scheme in the UK, which was sold as getting old polluting cars off the road, but also ended up being a massive waste of perfectly functioning vehicles and of course meant that car manufacturers could build millions more.

I just think there's a lot to be said for fixing things and using them for their entire lifetime. Our throwaway society and massive consumption is the driver for endless new stuff. I know you're not an EV fan, and it's also worth noting that the energy that goes into building a new car, with all of the components that are shipped to the factory, running the factory itself, all of the people who have to get to the factory to build the thing, then have it shipped abroad, taken to a showroom, the energy involved in running the showroom, the guy who drives to the showroom to sell you the car....... and on it goes. You'd have much less of an impact buying a second hand monster truck :bandit:
 
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