Someone clear this up for me. Keane just said the ball hitting the hand and being a penalty is not what we grew up with. I swear we grew up with any contact with the ball hitting the hand was a penalty? Didn't we? In fact, wasn't any contact with the ball touching the hand handball until 2013 when the "proximity" guidance was added?
The law always used to be that handball had to be deliberate, and accidental handball was waved away. As referees grew more stupid with the invention of the Premier League, this was changed to the farce we have today.
Yeah, that was the word I forgot. I have always thought only a handball deliberately preventing a chance should be a penalty. All others can be indirect. Not sure why handballs are worth goals.
The Korea one was incredibly bad. I remember watching if back about 5/6 years back (probably on you mentioning it) and couldn't believe how blatant the corruption was and how I hadn't seen it at the time. I was a kid in fairness though.
In multiple games too. Portugal, Italy and Spain. And the ref (against Italy) was discovered to have been corrupt as f*ck. Got arrested for trafficking cocaine a few years later or something like that. Another wild one was the 1982 World Cup in Spain. Before I was born but my dad told me about it. Apparently Spain were comically bad during the group stages (they lost to N. Ireland), and so the refs were blatantly doing all they could to get them enough points to go through. In one game, against Yugoslavia, there was a foul about two yards outside the box, and the ref gave a pen to Spain. Spain then missed the penalty, so the ref ordered it to be retaken, for no apparent reason. Spain scored it and won 2-1, and went through at the expense of Yugoslavia. (Apparently there was a load of other mental decisions like goals against them being given offside etc). Some of the old gits on here might remember it.
Everywhere I look online today people are angry about that offside last night. What is crazy is they keep saying decisions like this wouldn’t happen if we measured from the torso. His torso was wayyy more offside if the German defender’s foot wasn’t sticking back. Offside at the foot. Offside at the arse. Offside at the shoulder!
You’ve got to draw the line somewhere, but the offside is to stop you getting an unfair advantage as the attacker. As a sport, we want to see more goals too, not see them taken away for minuscule ‘offsides’ that really would have made no difference in the defenders ability to deal with it. I get you’ve got to draw the line somewhere, but the current rules need a rethink for the good of the sport.
The striker and last defender are level. Simple as that. So it's a goal. Measuring to the tiniest fraction of a toe nail is just ridiculous.
TBH the way technology is used for offside is like how it's used for tennis. If it's out it's out, whether it's by a mm or a foot. Same with offside. If you're offside you're offside. There's no grey area. At the end of the day the technology is providing super accurate decisions regarding offsides and the semi-automated way is providing it quite quickly.
Please be brave with your team selection today Gareth. Today needs to be the day the momentum changes, and if it does we should go on to make the final. Start with Gallagher again and I fear an extra time defeat.
Yeah, if you want to be ridiculously precise. Which is what I'm saying is wrong with it. You shouldn't need to measure it to the tiniest millimetre, taking up to two or three minutes. The two players in question, to the naked eye (even looking at the video replay), were level.
Yep. It wouldn't be difficult to change the rules so that offside is judged on the part of the attacker's body which is furthest away from the goal - essentially the old "clear daylight" theory between attacker and defender. Yes there would still be times where the attacker is a millimetre offside - because, as you say, the line needs to be drawn somewhere - but I think that way round would make offside far more palatable to most people.
