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Discussion in 'Southampton' started by ChilcoSaint, Feb 23, 2016.

  1. Osvaldorama

    Osvaldorama Well-Known Member

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    I think it’s because people on the left are genuinely low testosterone usually.

    They often have never experienced real violence or terror. They sit in their mums basement pretending to know lots about the real world, when in reality all that they know is learned through reading and not lived experience. They don’t realise that sometimes true strength is needed to protect yourself and those you love.

    I would go so far as to hazard a guess that there is a very strong correlation between left wing voters and never being in a fight before.

    It’s why the meme of “good times create weak men” always seems to ring true to me.
     
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  2. Archers Road

    Archers Road Urban Spaceman

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    You trying to say you're a hard man now Os? ****ing hell <laugh>
     
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  3. StJabbo1

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    Barking appropriate barking mad.
     
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  4. ChilcoSaint

    ChilcoSaint What a disgrace
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    Keep it coming Os, you’re on a roll mate <laugh><laugh><laugh><laugh><laugh><laugh><laugh>
     
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    Os, you conflate too many issues. The left are not a homogenous group and lots of us are with you on:

    1. The right to be critical of transgender ideologies.
    2. The pace of immigration.

    However, on 1) being critical means not using derogatory terms or oversimplifying into ‘sexualising kids’. There is genuine reason to worry about women’s right with sport, for example - and nearly all sports have now become less trans tolerant. This is a transitional period and things are swaying from one side to another. It will settle into a place that works eventually.

    2) I agree there is nothing racist with noticing cultural change. I grew up on Southampton estates and an not a middle class socialist. I have shown before that the areas with the most rapid social change voted most strongly for Brexit. And I have said many times that the working class man is more impacted by another plumber from Poland arriving than the middle class man who now gets cheaper rates. That said, schemes like Rwanda are barbaric and it is legal immigration that has gone through the roof. Invest in our own education- in social care and nursing- and we won’t need to bring in foreign workers.
     
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  6. milton archer

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    You you stole my thunder!

    O's lives in Barking.....you couldn't write it!
     
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    I'm stealing that.....hilarious genius level!
     
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  8. shoot_spiderman

    shoot_spiderman Power to the People

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    I’d nuance this a bit …
    There will and should always be some immigration and cultural churn, diversity is good
    We should depend far less on foreign workers
    We definitely should be investing more in our own people

    We should also be supporting poorer countries to offer better opportunities for their own to reduce economic migration
     
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    Yeah, absolutely agree on all. If we could balance global wealth a little, fewer people would want to come here.
     
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  10. Osvaldorama

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    <laugh> Not at all.

    I just look at the standard protestors at these antifa rallies, just stop oil etc. and there seems to be some common traits. They all look very much like they were bullied and are crying for help.

    Blaming society instead of taking personal accountability. And their thoughts are easy to manipulate because of this
     
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    And so did the protesters against masks in the US. Extremists tend to be slightly unhinged.
     
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  12. StJabbo1

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    Proof that the gene pool in Barking needs expanding.
     
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  13. thereisonlyoneno7

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    The flaw in your plan and is that in the stats I am not White British.

    I however in my mind am White British 100% culturally as being brought up by an Italian Mother and Indian father meant that the upbringing was culturally British as that was the middle ground. I was born here, only speak English (Something I am not proud of), grew up in a 100% ‘white’ British community, but for the stats I am probably a foreigner or an immigrant.

    How does that work then?

    EDIT: Maybe I am racist then as I genuinely do not have one Indian, Black or any other foreigner as a friend. I do have Chinese neighbours though so do I pass the test.
     
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  14. StJabbo1

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    Net migration is projected to fall to around 350,000, pre brexit levels, following the spikes caused by Hong Kong, Afghanistan and Ukraine
    https://migrationobservatory.ox.ac....igures-not-a-reliable-guide-to-future-trends/

    "Net migration of EU citizens has been negative since the pandemic and under the post-Brexit immigration system, with immigration falling by almost 70% compared to its 2016 peak." https://migrationobservatory.ox.ac.uk/resources/briefings/eu-migration-to-and-from-the-uk/

    In November 2020, the Government announced aid spending would fall from 0.7% to 0.5% of Gross National Income (GNI) as a “temporary measure,” in response to the Covid-19 pandemic's effects on the UK's public finances and economy. It is not planned to return to 0.7% until at least after 2027/28.30 Oct 2023

    UK aid: Spending reductions since 2020 and outlook from 2023
    upload_2024-6-23_12-24-6.png
    The House of Commons Library
    https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk › cbp-9224/
     
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    That explains everything :emoticon-0135-makeu.
     
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  18. Saints_Alive

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    Nobody told "Two Jags"....<laugh>

    please log in to view this image
     
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  19. Gregm1988

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    Do you ever consume any think pieces that aren’t aimed at America? Because pretty much no one in the U.K. has a basement. So that entire mum’s basement cliche is just not something that exists in our zeitgeist. We just don’t use that to describe people in this country

    As to the not being in a fight - there is a word for such people. Sensible
     
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  20. ChilcoSaint

    ChilcoSaint What a disgrace
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