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Off Topic JULY 4th 2024 6 months JAN 2025 ..chaos+ more fibs +roughshod attitudes+backtracking +++ C R A S H++

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  1. Angelicnumber16

    Angelicnumber16 Well-Known Member

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    And this started when we allowed the British population to explode by 10 million people in 20 years and it continues to be the root cause of many of our issues today aside from diluting the British population with culturally totally opposite people who do not share any common values.
    Too many people, and not enough resources and services to cope with them and yet we still allow thousands in without a whimper or any pushback, it’s utter utter madness
    No wonder nothing works here, including a lot of the people
    Talking of which, the cost of what is paid out in sickness benefits is running at £60bn a year with some 40,000 new claimants every month. People are basically just lazy, got used to handouts during Covid and found it's a nice littler earner. Why would you work when the Government is happy to pay you thousands of pounds.
    The whole thing is totally unsustainable as Starmer, Reeves and the others will soon find out.
     
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  2. Red Robin

    Red Robin Well-Known Member

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    All brought about by the highly skilled illegals in the boats- those doctors-nurses-builders-mechanics all creaming a living from us hard working taxpayers.
     
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  3. realred1952

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    In 2019 i was diagnosed as needing an operation 20th May [ or there abouts ] .... it was said after preliminaries would be around 18 weeks or more, preliminaries were in the middle of June. Specialist stated needed the op and and was told 18 -20 weeks. Bought a new kitchen and had 2 choices rip it all out and start from a clear sheet! or take out 1 side... luckily I took out 1 side and replaced the cooker [ kitchen is 18 x 10 ] on one side that is 15 foot long... went in for op July 4th ..

    that was about 7 weeks after intial contact to say you need something! [ x ray ]
    ON querying why so quick I was told by hospital that 18 weeks is the target time each "operation" is based on need, it is not necessarily take a ticket and your number comes up! but assessed as urgency! so a person with a minor operation will wait longer than one with a more pressing scenario. That seems fair?

    The crunch came with Covid . 12 months plus with no operations........ hundreds of illegals get to jump the que .... as they dont come here super fit, but with a number of ailments that often need hospitalization. Then the labour MP backed strikes followed ..... NOW look at that as a bigger picture!!!!!

    2019 Hospitals coping but waiting lists of say 18 weeks........ take out a whole years operations tat need to be done [2020] add to operations arising in 2021 maybe half get done? as still many beds occupied by Covidee's
    So 2022 needs to cope with a whole year of 2022 NEEDING OPS DIAGNOSED IN 2022 added to 36 month's [ 1 1/2 years of carry overs ] to get that to a realistic figure say 18 weeks or less you would need instantly at least
    double the NHS hospitals and staff to clear the figures in 2023 ... but NO Labour supported strikes wrecked even a small chance of getting the numbers down by even 25%
     
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  4. Red Robin

    Red Robin Well-Known Member

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    So time to get behind @reform for real change-the other two have pulled the wool over our eyes for to long.

    What i find refreshing is Nigel and @reform talk with common sense and not hiding from the questions that are asked.

    Hence they are growing and growing and growing and will gain on @Labour each week
     
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  5. AshtonRed

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    My prediction is a 50-60 seat Labour majority. But with 3 weeks to go let’s see what happens.
     
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  6. Angelicnumber16

    Angelicnumber16 Well-Known Member

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    Until as a nation we stand on the shores of Kent and/or Sussex armed and dare any freeloaders to step ashore or face real consequences, it will continue to get worse.
    Sunak has lost the plot with immigration. Rwanda certainly isn't the answer, it's just a total waste of tax payers money. But denying people coming here in the first place is the best deterrent and it's not difficult to enforce. Turn the boats around mid channel or prevent people actually disembarking .
    They got this wrong from the very start. Anyone setting foot in Britain illegally should be detained without exception, and deported the same day. End of
    And by the way, Starmer doesn't even have a plot.
     
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  7. Red Robin

    Red Robin Well-Known Member

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    They are a party that you can never ever trust. vote @reform the only credible party.
     
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  8. wizered

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    My trouble there is Reform are not a party, they are a business and Farage owns 53% of it.
     
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  9. Red Robin

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    Good which means they are having to stand by their principles and ways-which the people are liking.

    Aaron Banks Bristol based business man is also very much involved.
     
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  11. wizered

    wizered Ol' Mucker
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    Persomal profit can be misinterpreted, especially in politics and private companies have to make profits.
     
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  12. realred1952

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    under stated on facts known at present more likely to 80+......

    ironic really, as always, riding on the back of their cyclic failures of the past 70 years.
    they leave a massive debt that needed repaying [ cost over £1trn ]
    benefit from Covid which cost over £450bn
    benefit from Ukraine war cost upwards of £70bn for energy
    Then wage demands and strikes pushed up inflation ...strikes backed up by MP's JOINING picket lines to show "allegiance "to their paymasters!
    then about the only thing different to TORY POLICY that is actually working is GBE at a said cost of £8bn ... thats the set up fee! ... but should they tax existing suppliers it could become a dangerous cyclic catastrophe as they increase prices to maintain profitability,
     
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  13. AshtonRed

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    I’m assuming the next three weeks will see things tighten from where they are now,
     
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    realred1952 Well-Known Member

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    regarding the GBE .. IS IT A FIRST STEP to de privatising energy supplies .. remember BRITISH GAS ... THE ONE AND ONLY and our electric came from one supplier....... is the intention to form a mirror image of a past singular supplier like British gas!
    they say will create 9000 jobs but will it take as many loses from existing companies like eon sse etc etc ?
    initial outlay of a major project is never correct .. take hinkley point or HS RAIL DOUBLED ... EVEN TREBLED!
    IN 2030 will the UK be sunk under another WHERE THE NOTE SAYS .... SAME AS LAST TIME ...SORRY FOR CONNING ALL THE PEOPLE!
     
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  15. Star of David Bardsley

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    Preying on the prejudices of the gullible was always going to be profitable for him. People love comforting lies rather than uncomfortable truths. With a bit of luck they’ll split the Tory vote perfectly and gift Labour a few more seats.
     
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  16. Red Robin

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    comforting lies -the only person giving straight honest answers. The others i would not trust at all.
     
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  17. Star of David Bardsley

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    He gives simple soundbites to complex issues because once again he won’t be the person with the difficult job of actually doing anything. It’s just another grift.
     
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  18. realred1952

    realred1952 Well-Known Member

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    based on the various polls I have deduced that...
    Labour will get 265 seats
    Tories will get 136
    Reform will get 123
    Libdems will get 97
    Undecided will get 150 seats of these 40 something will likely be SNP SO 110 UP FOR GRABS !

    The past the post is 326 [ 324 as speakers dont vote ] so assuming labour make 324 then that means only 51 up for grabs.
    If the above is anywhere near right! 265 [ 324 ] then Tories would need to be 136 [ at least 156 ] with NI / Greens and Independents taking up 31 seats


     
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  19. Angelicnumber16

    Angelicnumber16 Well-Known Member

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    He can't possibly be any worse than the other 2 non entities (who are basically identical to each other - part of the global elite) with their unfunded pipe dreams and manifesto promises that will be broken within weeks.
    They both fart words.
     
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  20. AshtonRed

    AshtonRed Well-Known Member

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    Farage is like the other minor parties he can say anything because he knows he’s not going to have to implement it.
     
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